Predicting is ***Unavoidable***

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by aeliodon, Mar 5, 2007.



  1. You're internally inconsistent. Caps or no caps, "already doing" is no different from "has been doing". And "tends to keep on" implies prediction, regardless of the term used. Otherwise, there's no point in looking at the "already doing" and the "tends to". Quoting a book doesn't add any weight to your proposition.

    LC
     
    #61     Mar 7, 2007


  2. There is an IS because there has been a HAS BEEN, and there is a WILL BE because there has been an IS. Got that :eek:

    ie The only way to trade from an IS is to know the HAS BEEN, since the HAS BEENS determine the IS. Believe me you are taking into account the HAS BEENS when in the IS.

    and don't call me a "Has Been".

    Bob

    :D
     
    #62     Mar 7, 2007
  3. One is in the past and one is in the present tense. One is in the moment.

    One focuses on the here and now, the moment.

    To understand the laws of motion is not to predict them. As a trader we focus on the Process (the NOW) and let the future unfold as it will.

    If a market is rising there are three options:

    1. GO SHORT. This makes little sense as the market is making higher highs . Why Stand in front of the train?

    2. STAY OUT. Again, not the best choice. Markets that are trending offer the retail trader a partial portion of their edge generally speaking. Hence if there is a trend, why would one want to not be in it?

    3. GO LONG. If the current course of the market is up, then going long is the best choice. Markets, like planets, tend to keep on doing whatever they ARE doing. BUT THE BEST OPTION IS TO BE LONG NOW, BECAUSE PRICE IS RISING. THE FUTURE IS UNKOWN AND NOT KNOWABLE.

    Getting in tune with the market is letting go. It is surrendering to the way things are, not as they should be.
     
    #63     Mar 7, 2007
  4. Come on Kiwi (fellow Kiwi). What do you do that is so superior to what JH does?
     
    #64     Mar 8, 2007
  5. You are making no sense . Newton's laws are predictive, dynamics are pretty straightforward as to what is going to happen if specific conditions are present .
     
    #65     Mar 9, 2007
  6. taowave

    taowave

    This thread threatens to bring Elite Trader and its loyal following to a new level of absurdity..

    11 pages of varying opinions if Trading involves Predicting???


    Main Entry: pre·dict
    Pronunciation: \pri-ˈdikt\
    Function: verb
    Etymology: Latin praedictus, past participle of praedicere, from prae- pre- + dicere to say — more at diction
    Date: 1609
    transitive verb
    : to declare or indicate in advance; especially : foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason

    just because one reads Douglas books,or sits in seiza and meditates,or takes an ashtanga class and chants will not ,nor ever change the fact that

    Trading>>Predicting is***Unavoidable**
     
    #66     Mar 9, 2007
  7. You exhibit a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be in the moment. You aren't "surrending to the way things are"; you're surrending to the way things have been.

    LC
     
    #67     Mar 9, 2007
  8. nitro

    nitro

    I see what you are saying, and there is a very very subtle difference between being in the moment and acting on the moment (predicting, but using unknown brain functions to predict), and being in the moment and acting on the past through probabilities (mathematical prediction).

    If you can make money trading this way, more power to you. But you will "never" codify how you make decisions, and it depends on which side of the bed you get up from.

    nitro
     
    #68     Mar 9, 2007
  9. If by "you", you mean me, I don't know what you mean by "this way". In any case, unless KPC is displaying only a single tick on his trading chart and no other preceding prints, and has consulted no charts of any kind before the beginning of the trading day, I suspect he is at least somewhat influenced by what has been.

    LC
     
    #69     Mar 9, 2007
  10. I predict this thread has no point or end :D.

    Sorry.... it was unavoidable...
     
    #70     Mar 9, 2007