Post your feeling when you heard "no collusion".

Discussion in 'Politics' started by MeAgainstTheWorld, Mar 25, 2019.

  1. carrer

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    #13     Mar 27, 2019
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    #14     Mar 27, 2019
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    #15     Apr 26, 2019
  6. Max E.

    Max E.


    Felt the exact same way.... it was so far fetched you would have had to be an idiot to believe it....


    Supposedly Trump, the biggest loudmouth in history, was able to hide the fact that He was secretly working with russia behind the scenes..... And yet nobody in any of these intelligence agencies had any evidence, or ever heard him doing it.....

    The story completely defied logic. Any rational human being knew he was never going to get nailed with collusion.

    Quite frankly, if he did get nailed on collusion it would have been an even bigger indictment of our intel agencies....

    like how the hell could they have missed the fact that a blowhard like Trump was a Russian asset.

    The story is funny on all of its levels.
     
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    #16     Apr 26, 2019
  7. LYRICS TO “THE DAY COLLUSION DIED”

    Two long years ago the probe began and many thought that someday it would make them smile. And those who said it had no chance were scowled upon and seen askance so desperate was the hope to see a trial.

    But February made them shiver as it came clear he’d not deliver. The news that they desired was not to be acquired. I know that many people cried when they read the news, it hurt their pride, so deeply in the pipe dream mired the day collusion died.

    So bye, bye to the collusion lie, Russian Agents, Putin’s Puppet and a plot to deny. From each new event how the conjecture would fly. Can they let it go and just let it die? Let it go and just let it die.

    We all know that he’s corrupt and his list of crimes is building up so I’ll just list them down below. While emoluments could’ve kicked the goal collusion was their chosen roll investigating all of it real slow.

    Well, the Media then lost their mind as they blundered backward fully blind. Collusion became news, evidence not vital for clues. The other news stories all were then chucked while collusion filled every news truck But I knew they ran out of luck the day collusion died.

    But they kept singing Bye, bye he’s a Russian ally Putin Puppet, Russian agent and a treasonous spy and every day, more wacky theories would fly. Time to let it go and just let it to die. Let it go and just let it die.

    Now when Mueller issued his report the media could not contort it to save face though they did try. They lost all credibility. Embarrassed is what they should be, and the damage done they cannot deny.

    They gave victory to the president, validation as if heaven sent. The courtroom was adjourned, no verdict was returned. And now when he screams about fake news he’ll be correct thanks to their ruse. The “Witch Hunt” he’ll rightfully accuse the day collusion died.

    ‘cause they were singing Bye, bye he’s a Russian ally Putin Puppet, Russian agent and a treasonous spy And every day, more crazy theories would fly time to let it go and just let it to die. let it go and just let it die.

    I met a girl who sang the blues. She she asked me for some happy news. I offered but she just turned away. Those who followed actual facts instead of “liberal media” hacks would know that Mueller knew the only way.

    He farmed out criminal indictments to seven districts, there’s excitement, all of them pardon-proof, not like the collusion spoof. So carefully he did anoint a prosecution starting point the outcome couldn’t disappoint the day collusion died.

    Yet they’re still singing Bye, bye he’s a Russian ally Putin Puppet, Russian agent and a treasonous spy. The Russian hysteria was misplaced outcry. Time to let it go and just let it die. Let it go and just let it die.

    So, bye, bye to the collusion lie, Collusion obsession-gave the press a black eye.
    And if they persist the damage will amplify
    Time to let it go and just let it die.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/26/friday-funny-the-day-collusion-died/
     
    #17     Apr 26, 2019
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  8. I didn't hear that because that's not what he said. Once again the righties are delusional. There certainly was collusion.
     
    #18     Apr 26, 2019
  9. The report is very clear that Mueller’s investigation did not establish that the Trump campaign criminally conspired on illegal Russian election interference, or that it coordinated with Russia through either an active or tacit agreement.

    But the report, combined with other publicly known facts — that Donald Trump Jr. arranged a meeting with the express purpose of obtaining Russian “dirt” on Clinton, and that Papadopoulos was offered similar dirt from a Russian agent, among others — paints a damning picture of the campaign. It was both actively seeking to cultivate a relationship with the Russian government and willing to work with it to acquire damaging information about its political opponents. That willingness included explicitly sharing information with or soliciting information from Russian operatives.

    As the report takes pains to point out, “collusion” has no legal definition and is not a federal crime. So while the report did not establish conspiracy or coordination, it does not make a determination on “collusion” — and in fact, it strongly suggests that there was at least an attempt to collude by Trump’s campaign and agents of the Russian government.

    The fact that it did not rise to the level of criminal activity does not mean it was not a serious breach of trust and a damning indictment of the president’s commitment to the health of the American legal and political system. The section of the report focusing on Russian interference in the election is not an exoneration of Trump’s innocence. It’s a devastating portrayal of his approach to politics.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484965/mueller-report-trump-no-collusion
     
    #19     Apr 26, 2019
  10. The strong evidence of (something like) collusion
    Although Attorney General William Barr said that there was “no collusion” in his press conference before the report’s release, Mueller is actually quite explicit that he did not address the question of “collusion.” This is because, to his mind, the term is not precise enough, nor does it fall within the ambit of what was essentially a criminal investigation.

    “Collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law,” Mueller writes. “For those reasons, the Office’s focus in analyzing questions of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law.”

    So when Mueller concludes that he “did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities,” he is not saying that there is no evidence of “collusion” at all, in any sense. What he is saying is that there is insufficient evidence to prove that the Trump administration was directly involved in Russian crimes like stealing Clinton’s emails.

    But did the Trump campaign actively work with the Russian government to improve its electoral chances? If that’s the standard, then the report provides plenty of evidence to suggest the answer is yes.

    First, Russia repeatedly reached out to the Trump campaign to establish a connection to the Kremlin. “The Russian contacts consisted of business connections, offers of assistance to the Campaign, invitations for candidate Trump and Putin to meet in person, invitations for Campaign officials and representatives of the Russian government to meet, and policy positions seeking improved U.S.-Russian relations,” Mueller writes.

    Second, the Trump campaign was receptive — sometimes going beyond what was on offer from the Kremlin. Some of the examples of this are egregious.

    Take Manafort’s meetings with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian political consultant with a history of connections to the GRU intelligence agency. The FBI believed had links to the Kremlin, a view shared by Manafort’s right-hand man Gates. “Gates suspected that Kilimnik was a ‘spy,’ a view that he shared with Manafort,” Mueller writes.

    Yet despite Gates’s suspicions, Manafort repeatedly met with Kilimnik, worked with him to develop a pro-Russian Ukraine policy that Trump could implement if elected, and regularly shared polling data with him:

    https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484965/mueller-report-trump-no-collusion
     
    #20     Apr 26, 2019