Please reread my post...LESS THAN I WOULD HAVE SPENT FOR A PLACE IN THE DALLAS AREA - YOWSERS!!!! KNOWLEDGE IS FREEDOM!!!! Conventional wisdom (all the shit I was fed growing up) said that "Hawaii is too expensive!!!!" Look in the Puna district for land - a LOT of rain, but the weather is fucking awesome...and the rain you collect and you use as your drinking water. I have twenty acres of "farm" land - not yet used and a home on three acres with all kinds of stuff growing on it. The twenty acres were "about" $100K" and the house (nice house - previously owned by a Dr. in Califorinia) around $150K -gastropod
Hello MohdSalleh, my "read" of you (having seen some of your posts) is that you are not stupid and you are checking out what I posted. I think you will be pleased that I have NOT lied to you - properties in Puna are less expensive than you were lead to believe. Ciao, gastropod
Probably the best resource regarding the thread subject. It's pretty obvious who the armchair commandos are in this thread, by the way. Remote farmland, a rifle & ammo, lol, no, it's not that simple. You're probably the easiest targets. One must consider the key differences between USA & Argentina, particularly water & electricity situation. Also, the layout of the countries population is very different, cities, suburbs and rural. It will depend where you are. Regardless, the economic collapse will not be drastic, it is already controlled and being executed slowly by the powers that be. Few realize this.
I agree with your statement intuitively but would like to understand the details more clearly. Exactly who do you consider the "powers that be"? Do you think someone besides the obvious leaders of the Fed, the Treasury and our President are pulling the strings? And how are they executing a slow, controlled economic collapse besides simply printing money? Printing money without paying down the debt is unsustainable. How do you envision the economic collapse unfolding besides a slow decline in the value of the US dollar and eventual inflation?
Sorry Lojanica, I didn't see this until Dr. Pepper quoted it. I'm not sure how to answer this, without writing another book length post. Bare bones: Eagle Scout in the 1970s, born to a family of hillbilly rocket scientists, read 950 wpm, near 100% retension, and I like to solve puzzles, interpolating and extrapolating missing pieces. I read on the internet 3-5 hours a day, and read texts another 4-8 hours per day. Career in construction field supervision (20 years) and system operations, airline datacenter (10 years). Officially retired, but I'm really just getting started working now, setting up a private research facility on property adjacent to my home, (physics, meteorology, audio/wave theory, and prototyping). I started prepping extensively after 9/11, have read exhaustively on the subject ever since, and streamlined processes along the way. Even though I'm an outdoors guy, 20 years construction and right now, around 450 lifetime sleeping bag nights, the move from suburbs to a rural area about 13 years ago was an eye opener. When the city gets 2-5 inches of snow, we get bare grass and five foot drifts, nothing to stop the wind around here. We get snowed in every year, rural electric and phone lines are always at risk, distance to retail outlets too far for daily expeditions, and a stockpile of needs and survival items becomes a habit. I see a lot of previously unprepared people beginning to get interested these days. I think the combination of Katrina and the Great Crash of 2008-2009 has opened the minds of millions to preparations as insurance. If my distilled experience can help others avoid the mistakes I made at first, and since, good deal.
There's the money quote right there. The purpose of preparing for rainy days is so you can sleep on quiet nights. If you're preparations do not ease your mind, but make stress worse, you are approaching it wrong. I've been prepping for about a decade now, but have been shooting all my life. First time on a range with a .22 rifle was age 6. The science of medium range ballistics, (100 to 300 yards) combined with the softer sciences of recoil mechanics, rifle harmonics, human ergonomics, wind, humidity and thermal compensation, the science of putting rounds in the X-ring, all fascinate me. CQB practice on a barricade range, smoking hot barrels and ragged center mass holes in paper targets kill several birds with one stone, including daily exercise. Massive cities exist outside the laws of nature to some extent. The Second Law of Thermodynamics implies you can't pack that many people into such a tight space without externally applied order, and much of that order today comes form a near criminally vulnerable electrical grid. Grid goes down, fridge goes hot, toilets don't flush, water goes foul, and that pile of people will spread out in all directions, under extreme stress, ala New Orleans circa Katrina. They're going to pass by my home on the way out. If my ballistics hobby allows more security for my family and assets, more's the efficiency.
By virtue of accumulating so much debt, it can never be repaid except through debasement (Zimbabwe) or taxation (Great Depression). When Bush and Obama made the decision to plow trillions into the banks, they - or their advisers - knew it was mathematically impossible to pay back that debt without crashing the economy circa 1929. But they did it anyway. It's not rocket science.
Interesting. You use advice from an Argentinian blogger to rebut my stance on this subject, without ever realizing that Ferfal is a long time internet acquaintence of mine, and that we've jointly participated in hundreds or thousands of discussions on this very subject. Most of what's posted on his website was originally offered in the Survival Forums at a very popular firearms website, where we discussed his experiences, reactions, and conclusions exhaustively, during and towards the end of which process we suggested he start his own site as a permanent repository for those experiences. Just a little head's up...the "powers that be" you place such confidence in, that have this situation" totally under control", are the same powers that brought us the New Orleans levee system, the LA riots, the NINJA mortgages that brought us the Great Crash of 2008-2009, the IMF, Social Security, Medicaid, and soon to be, Obamacare. Given that the next step after significant dislocation probably involves pitchforks and torches, the powers that be do in fact have an interest in playing this out slowly, sans chaos. The intent is in place to be sure, but the ability and integrity are, historically and empirically speaking, lacking. Sorely lacking, IMHO. I won't dispute the fact that they may just pull it off. Though they waited a long long time before deleveraging, the laws of nature are leading them thru the nose in the right direction, willingly or kicking and screaming. But given some of their more spectacular failures, none of which requires even slightly dedicated research to document, I'll place my faith in myself. I really do have my own best interests at heart, and will ride across on the ferry, thank you very much, no matter how badly the alligators wish me to ride on their backs. As for being an 'easy target" I guess it could seem that way to a city boy. But even one week around these parts might convince you otherwise. Used to be that small arms semi-auto fire to all points of the rosette was the norm, what with the shotgun loving cop next door, another across the street, a third a quarter mile down the road by the bridge (channelizing chokepoint), golden retriver eating packs of coyotes all around, and scores of coy-dogs getting cockier by the day, but here lately, all these "easy targets" seem to have their happy switch set to full auto rock and roll. (Not me, but then I'm an aimed fire kind of guy who prefers to avoid the tax stamp lists.) Cityfolk used to mugging little old ladies for spending money, and calling the donut packing mall cops to save them when bangers kick in the doors, best think twice before engaging small unit tactics familiar workingmen whose day jobs, for generations now, involve wrestling 1200 pound livestock, and tractor tires taller than their heads. ;-)
Thank-you for posting. I salute you. My day has begun and yours was the first post I read. I start off the day a bit more encouraged for The United States of America. Her freedoms and her people. Thank-you.
You know ... it's funny ... I have been on top of these issues now for decades. A friend sent me that link about 9 mos ago after he read it and was woken up. Great link ... great lessons.