Possible Election Fraud in Progress

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BeautifulStranger, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. Hotcakes

    Hotcakes

    You have no idea what ur talking about.

    Many high level people have staked their names on big fraud coming out of Dominion.

    Dershowitz says SC judgement will likely flip PENN to Trump.

     
    #541     Nov 15, 2020
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    #542     Nov 15, 2020
  3. virtusa

    virtusa

  4. #544     Nov 15, 2020
  5. Hotcakes

    Hotcakes

    #545     Nov 15, 2020
  6. As far as indications of election fraud, I refer you to post one of this thread for details. Further, there are other posts, including a video by a electonic voting expert that lends support to the idea that election fraud was committed against Trump.


    A plausible reason is risk of detection increases the more fraud one commits as well the increased financial and resource burden of facing an increased number of plaintiffs. There are also potentally profound political implications if caught.


    “Intense hatred, disgust, and distrust of Trump”? Would it be fair to say the preceeding might be considered one of the motives for election fraud against Trump?


    The indications of election fraud are there. One of the points of this thread is to specifically discuss why or why not a specific indication of fraud is likely or not likely to be actual fraud. The reason that Leftist posters, the DNC, and the media do not want to talk about these indications of election fraud may revolve around the idea of trying to avoid accidentally giving away information or hoping to avoid “Legitimizing” the idea that election fraud could happen in the US. Unfortunately for the Democrats, the indications of fraud are many, the number of witnesses are high, and the states that have the greatest indications of election fraud are coming up. At this point, it seems the Democrats only hope is the incompetence or sabotage by the Trump’s own legal team.

    Trump’s legal team may focus on “Election irregularities” and seek redress by the courts on that basis rather than calling it fraud. However, any court that orders a recount, invalidation of a substantial number of votes, or provides a remedy of similar impact to the preceeding would certaintly lend credence to the idea the election fraud has indeed taken place.


    My response to your similar statement is above.


    Even if you gave a name associated with “Trump’s own Department of Homeland Security” your attempted appeal to authority falls flat because the indications of election fraud has still not been specifically addressed.

    Trump was target one by far. Apparent election fraud in the US seems to have been done on a targeted basis against Republicans in order to slowly gain influence in new areas without raising the alarm. For example, US Congressmen Pete Sessions was an incumbent in Texas who believed election fraud was committed and hired an electronic voting expert to do an investigation. This investigator stated that blatent election fraud was found:

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/voting-machine-election-fraud-smoking-gun.352388/

    By the way, another way of looking at the Democrats losing 8 or 9 Congressmen and a Governorship is the people are net not buying what the Democrats offer. By extension, Trump would be indicated to be a big beneficiary of this thought process. Further, it has been pointed out by Congressman Pete Session’s data analyst the ratio of top ticket to down ticket was substantially different on Trump ballots versus Biden ballots, where Biden had a large number of ballots had no votes other than for Biden. This may be an indication that someone or a group of people hurriedly filled out ballots in an attempt to overturn the election. Physical forensics or even visual inspection may identify these ballots. I’m sure the swing state Biden ballot down ticket ratios will be compared to non swing states and on a historical basis.

    The indications of election fraud are there. How it ultimately manifests itself is another story.
     
    #546     Nov 15, 2020
  7. I am willing to sign an affidavit regarding what I observed and recorded on election night. I am willing to go to court, testify, and face cross examination. The basis for my testimony would be:

    I have been following the Progress of the 2020 Presidential Election on Realclearpolitics.com and found some anomalies in several swing states. The following is a list of states along with Democrat% of votes won, Republican % of vote wons, and % of totals votes cast. Values either updated when a change occured or along with other updates. These updates started towards the latter part of Tuesday night.

    GA 48.1, 50.7, 93%
    GA 48.1, 50.7, 97%
    GA 48.3, 50.5, 85% Why the drop in percentage of votes counted? Fraud attempt?
    GA 48.3, 50.5, 99%. Ok, almost back to where it was.

    MI may have a correlation anomaly with the relationship of the change of percentage of total votes cast versus swings in net percentage. Further, the progress of the count has slowed down subtantially. This may suggest some Trump votes are getting thrown out.
    MI 44.7, 53.6, 63%
    MI 44.7, 53.7, 64%
    MI 45.1, 53.3, 66%
    MI 45.0, 53.4, 67%
    MI 45.0, 53.4, 69%
    MI 45.1, 53.3, 70%
    MI 45.1, 53.3, 71%
    MI 45.3, 52.2, 71%
    MI 46.2, 52.2, 74%
    MI 46.4, 52.0, 75%
    MI 46.4, 52.0, 76%
    MI 46.7, 51.7, 77%
    MI 46.9, 51.5, 78%
    MI 46.9, 51.5, 79%

    Watching PA and a similar thing may be happening here as with MI.
    PA 42.1, 56.7, 68%
    PA 42.2, 56.6, 70%
    PA 42.5, 56.3, 72%
    PA 42.4, 56.4, 72%
    PA 42.7, 56.1, 74%
    PA 43.1, 55.7, 75%
    PA 43.0, 55.8, 75%
    PA 43.1, 55.7, 75%

    WI 47.3, 51.2, 94%
    WI 47.3, 51.2, 94%
    WI 47.2, 51.3, 96%
    WI 47.4, 51.1, 97%
    WI 48.8, 49.7, 98% How does the total percentage of votes go up 1% or so and votes swing 1.4% to Biden?

    WI 49.4, 49.1, 98%. Here again, not change in total percent of votes cast, yet Biden gains .6%.

    There certaintly could be plausible explainations that don’t involve fraud, but there is clearly a reason to investigate these apparent anomalies.
     
    #547     Nov 15, 2020
  8. virtusa

    virtusa

    Off course, everybody is against Trump and got a lot of money to steal the elections... LOL.

    I can as well say the same:
    • Republicans payed a lot of money to hide evidence is all that this proves.
    • STATEDEPT DOJ FBI CIA, half the Military and half DHS are in the pockets of the Republicans.
    And I have proof about my statements...The same proof as the Republicans have today... NOTHING!
     
    #548     Nov 15, 2020
  9. virtusa

    virtusa

    Who can certify that these numbers are correct. They are fake for me. I saw other numbers.
     
    #549     Nov 15, 2020
  10. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You can pursue this all you want nobody cares flail away. Homeland Security just said no indications of fraud of any kind most secure election in history. Immediately I see some flaws in your logic above. Note that the completed number is a whole number. 97% to 98% does not mean they added 1% more votes. It could be as much as 1.99% more votes ( the completed number obviously is rounded down; note that most states still read 99% when they are basically done the count ). 98% to 98% could be as much as 0.99% more votes completed. Secondly, you don't know the source of those numbers. For all you know, some clerk is reading the computer system and manually sending the numbers to the source you are using. Where did these numbers come from ? Certainly a TV station or internet site is not a source of integrity it's just there to give viewers an idea of where things are going.

    What you aren't getting is your data is a poor source for such analysis. There are multitudes better sources including the ballots themselves that are being hand counted in Georgia. If the hand count comes within 200 votes of the reported result, that's proof of concept of the system being used. And Trump claimed Georgia had the fraud. Because, you see, his claims have nothing to do with evidence, and everything to do with how close the vote was earlier in the count. This is why he pursued Wisconsin and Michigan but in the end Biden won Michigan easily and Wisconsin is a fairly healthy lead. Are you seriously thinking a 150,000 vote fraud occurred in Michigan ? That would be incredibly easy to prove if it existed.

    Good luck turning three states for Trump. Funny how well the Republicans did in the Senate. So why did the Republican senator easily win Maine, but Biden won Maine, and she was under considerable heat pre-election. Must be fraud right ?
     
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    #550     Nov 15, 2020