Porsche IPO

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by vanzandt, Sep 5, 2022.

  1. GotherL

    GotherL

    This will be a fad.

    Now the rich can own one and part of the company.
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2022
    #11     Sep 6, 2022
  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Gold chain wearing mid-life crisis sleeze "I loved the car so much I 'bought' the company". :banghead:
     
    #12     Sep 6, 2022
  3. #13     Sep 6, 2022
  4. That Oct 2008 squeeze was amazing.

    *Wasn’t involved either side but it definitely made/ended a lot of careers
     
    #14     Sep 7, 2022
  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I think it ended more trading careers than it made. Most of Wall Street was short it and most pensioners were long it.
     
    #15     Sep 7, 2022
  6. 1950-1970's : Simple times. People bought the car and were happy.
    1980's : Sales were falling so the gimmicks known as the 928, 944 and 968 were made.
    1990's: No one really wanted the gimmicks so Porsche had to hire Toyota to make their production more efficient. In the meantime they created the Boxster.
    2000's: Boxster aka not a real Porsche because from the back of the door to the front of the car was a 911 and this pissed off the 911 owners.
    Late 2000's: Porsche headed to bankruptcy, bought by VW.
    2010's: Sales stagnating late 2010's. Four door is an ugly thing.
    2020's: VW spinning it off to let it die.
    2030's: D E D
     
    #16     Sep 7, 2022
  7. It always cracks me up how millennials think that GME was something to make movies about.

    The VV infinity squeeze was definitely the god-mother of all squeezes. Ironically, no one talked about it much after it happened. You were either liquidated and committed suicide after, or survived it, and we had a financial crisis still to worry about.

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    #17     Sep 7, 2022
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    #18     Sep 8, 2022
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I remember that lol.

    2008:
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    In the middle of the 2008 financial crisis, Volkswagen AG (OTC: VWAGY) and Porsche were involved in perhaps the most well-known short squeeze of all time. Porsche which already owned 44% of Volkswagen acquired a large number of shares in Volkswagen, an additional 31% stake. In total Porsche owned 75% of Volkswagen, and since the German state of Lower Saxony owned the remaining 20%, there were less than 6% of the float of shares available.

    During the same time, hedge funds and short-sellers had borrowed 13% of the shares to short, which meant they could not cover unless Porsche or the Lower Saxony state decided to sell.

    As a result, the short-sellers were forced to buy back the shares they had sold, driving the stock price from €210 to over €1,000 a share. Hedge funds are believed to have lost about $30 billion on the Volkswagen AG bet.

    The Volkswagen AG short-squeeze scenario shows that even though a company may be declining, a competitor can acquire and ruin a short position's potential for profits.

    It's a great example of how two companies can be intertwined and how short-sellers need to be aware of these relationships when placing their bets.
     
    #19     Sep 11, 2022
  10. VicBee

    VicBee

    And I expect those who lost their shirt on that squeeze might be getting ready to take revenge.
     
    #20     Sep 11, 2022