Pope: "There is no Hell"

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by vanzandt, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. volpri

    volpri

    I can see your bet is placed. You have no stoploss.
     
    #71     Nov 18, 2018
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  2. volpri

    volpri

    Well I may not have personally seen hell or heaven but I know some folks who have. Their experience is worth something. Even if it is anecdotal that doesn’t mean it isn’t real. I could tell you some short stories about a recent trip to Argentina. Just because it is anecdotal doesn’t negate the trip nor what I experienced.

    You can put your trust in science but science has been wrong many times...many times. Science in no way means it is always correct nor is it infallible just because it is science.

    Supernatural doesn’t negate existence. Invisibility and undetectability by current means does not negate existence either.
     
    #72     Nov 18, 2018
  3. mbondy

    mbondy

    The irony of that statement is that changing your mind still won't change your final destination.
     
    #73     Nov 18, 2018
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  4. stu

    stu

    An experience, an anecdote, a trip, a story. Things occurring naturally, not supernatural things.
    Heaven and Hell are supernatural assumptions.

    Assuming the supernatural, does not mean the supernatural could exist. It cannot just be assumed into existence.

    Science is so successful exactly because the method it uses tries to prove its findings wrong.

    Actually, it does.

    Supernatural is supposed to be something beyond existence.
    Beyond existence is not existence.
    Not existence, then it doesn't have existence.
    Doesn't have existence, then doesn't exist.
    Hell is said to be beyond existence so cannot exist.
    So when you no longer exist you're supposed to exist o_O in a place that has no existence. o_Oo_O

    Ironically enough, supernatural is a natural belief phenomenon, so not even supernatural of itself.
     
    #74     Nov 19, 2018
  5. stu

    stu

    If there were an afterlife and with there being no rational or reasonable information available about it beforehand, likely your bet is exactly the right one that would win the prize.:)
     
    #75     Nov 19, 2018
  6. tomorton

    tomorton


    Yes............. if God's a scientist.
     
    #76     Nov 19, 2018
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  7. stu

    stu

    Excellent. The Universe can always use another scientist.
    :)
     
    #77     Nov 20, 2018
  8. There`s no such thing in the universe that has defenition and doesn`t exist.
     
    #78     Nov 20, 2018
  9. tomorton

    tomorton


    There are plenty of things in the universe that have definition and which plainly don't exist.

    Heaven is only defined by hearsay. You might accept hearsay, I don't. The level of detail in the hearsay and the number of people who accept it doesn't change the fact its still hearsay.
     
    #79     Nov 20, 2018
  10. For example?
     
    #80     Nov 20, 2018