Pope implicated in covering up sex abuse:

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Mar 13, 2010.

  1. Since your writings seem to indicate a person of high moral character, I assume you dont pay the portion of your property taxes that support your local school districts.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39783
     
    #61     Mar 18, 2010
  2. thats funny and a good strawman. there are always going to be bad apples in every group. the difference is what happens in that group. sex crimes like happen in the catholic church would topple every other organization in america right up the the most powerful man, the president. what happen in the church? if you are reported to the leaders of the church,those who claim to speak with moral authority,your crime will be covered up. in fact you will be allowed to commit the crime again. then what happens to those who do the coverup? they get elevated to pope. your god must be smiling right now
     
    #62     Mar 18, 2010
  3. We agree on that, Free Thinker.
    Sin is an equal opportunity employer
     
    #63     Mar 18, 2010
  4. is it a sin for a self described all knowing and all powerful god to stand by and do nothing while his represenatives on earth commit evil on innocent children?
     
    #64     Mar 18, 2010
  5. Oh dont worry...he is going to do something, you can be sure of that. And its going to be so much worse for them BECAUSE they were supposed to be his representatives. But you have to wait a little while for them to die before they get put in their eternal cell.
     
    #65     Mar 18, 2010
  6. why wait? an all powerful god could surely cause a priest to go blind every time he rapes a little boy. is the defenceless victims plight meaningless to a god that calls himself loving?
    if you saw a child abandoned along a deserted road and you drove by would it be a sin?
     
    #66     Mar 18, 2010

  7. I dont want to bore you with theological doctrines, so I will give the Cliff notes version:

    G-D has done everything that He has stated in His word that He would do on behalf of a fallen , blind, arrogant, lustful, prideful and foolish man...........He has paid the price of admission for man to go back home. The rest of what is required is up to us.

    And make no mistake, the judgement of G-D will most definitely begin with the "church".
     
    #67     Mar 18, 2010
  8. jem

    jem

    This is why I go to church....

    from JOhn 6.

    Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread also which I will give for the life of the world is My flesh."

    52Then the Jews began to argue with one another, saying, "How can this man give us His flesh to eat?" 53So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. 56He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me. 58This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever."

    And in case you wish t tell me it is symbolic you may wish to do a little research.

    So here is the deal.... if you are going to believe the bible - you should probably take Jesus at his word.

    if you take his word seriously - you need to go to a church that has a real communion. Because when I receive worthily - discerning his body -- I am acting in faith on jesus' promises.


    So - to me you have a choice -- don't believe or believe and take Jesus' word's seriously.
     
    #68     Mar 18, 2010
  9. since you skirted the last question how about another. would it be a sin for god to lie?
     
    #69     Mar 18, 2010
  10. My previous answer may not have been adequate or to your liking, but any "skirting" was unintentional.

    What is your definition of "sin" ?
     
    #70     Mar 18, 2010