Poor Texans. If only they believed in Human Forced Global Warming...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jack.Yarn, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Yesbutwhatwouldyoudoifyourmolevolentknolefactorsrepudiateyourplatitudeswithanachromism,globalwarmingthemovieaitplanewasfunnyandtheskyisfallingIthoughtthatiswhereJesuslivesfuturecurrentsIthinkownsyou.
     
    #51     Aug 25, 2017
  2. wildchild

    wildchild

    In ancient times, religious zealots told people that natural disasters were caused by their behavior and they had to adjust their behavior in order to avoid them.

    In modern times, religious zealots tell people that natural disasters are caused by their behavior and they had to adjust their behavior in order to avoid them.
     
    #52     Aug 26, 2017
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  4. Mayors are taking the lead in states to go renewable as best they can until we throw out the con man incompetent baboon in the White House. The ones that are the most aggressive in making the change to renewable energy are the mayors of coastal cities, since they can see with their own two eyes what is happening.

    Expect 50% of the country to be on renewable in two decades.

    US mayors back plan for cities to use only renewable energy

    A bipartisan group of mayors from across the country unanimously backed an ambitious commitment for U.S. cities to run entirely on renewable sources such as wind and solar in two decades.

    As the U.S. Conference of Mayors wrapped up in Miami Beach on Monday, leaders from more than 250 cities voted on symbolic resolutions pushing back against President Donald Trump on climate change and immigration.

    “Mayors have been involved in the frontline of climate and energy issues for so long, but the president’s actions have really just ignited the excitement of mayors and citizens who want to get to do a whole lot more,” said Steve Benjamin, a Democratic mayor of Columbia, South Carolina, who proposed the resolution with three other mayors....

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article158300534.html
     
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    #54     Aug 26, 2017
  5. Internal study shows that renewable energy is gaining market share from fossil fuels at an alarming rate, and the grid is doing just fine. Alarmed, the Trump administration takes action and rewrites the facts of study.

    But watch it you want to laugh your ass off. Rick Perry's mother when asked, said of him, "He isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer."

     
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    #55     Aug 26, 2017
  6. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    The modern warm period is completely within natural variability and is not unusual or unprecedented.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00376-017-6238-8

    Characteristics of temperature change in China over the last 2000 years and spatial patterns of dryness/wetness during cold and warm periods

    “We found four warm epochs,” says Prof. Quansheng Ge. Data show records for the periods AD 981–1100 and AD 1201–70 are comparable to the present warm period.


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    his paper presents new high-resolution proxies and paleoclimatic reconstructions for studying climate changes in China for the past 2000 years. Multi-proxy synthesized reconstructions show that temperature variation in China has exhibited significant 50–70-yr, 100–120-yr, and 200–250-yr cycles. Results also show that the amplitudes of decadal and centennial temperature variation were 1.3°C and 0.7°C, respectively, with the latter significantly correlated with long-term changes in solar radiation, especially cold periods, which correspond approximately to sunspot minima. The most rapid warming in China occurred over AD 1870–2000, at a rate of 0.56° ± 0.42°C (100 yr)−1; however, temperatures recorded in the 20th century may not be unprecedented for the last 2000 years, as data show records for the periods AD 981–1100 and AD 1201–70 are comparable to the present. The ensemble means of dryness/wetness spatial patterns in eastern China across all centennial warm periods illustrate a tripole pattern: dry south of 25°N, wet from 25°–30°N, and dry to the north of 30°N. However, for all centennial cold periods, this spatial pattern also exhibits a meridional distribution. The increase in precipitation over the monsoonal regions of China associated with the 20th century warming can primarily be attributed to a mega El Ni˜no–Southern Oscillation and the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation. In addition, a significant association between increasing numbers of locusts and dry/cold conditions is found in eastern China. Plague intensity also generally increases in concert with wetness in northern China, while more precipitation is likely to have a negative effect in southern China.

    4. Conclusion

    In this paper we report on a number of high-resolution proxies, paleoclimatic reconstructions, and new results through CCCP2k studies attained over the last five years. The following points can be concluded from this work:

    (1) Multi-proxy synthesized reconstructions for China show significant cycles in temperature variation over the last 2000 years, including 50–70-yr, 100–120-yr, and 200–250-yr cycles. At the same time, the amplitudes for decadal and centennial variation in temperature are 1.3◦C and 0.7◦C, respectively, and centennial variation is significantly correlated with long-term changes in solar radiation—especially cold periods, which correspond approximately to sunspot minima, as well as the frequency of large volcanic eruptions. Results further show that the linear warming trend across the whole of China was 0.56◦ ±0.42◦C (100 yr)−1 for the period between AD 1870 and AD 2000. This was very likely the most rapid in the last 2000 years, although a similar warming rate also occurred in intervals between cold and warm periods before the 20th century. The warmth of the 20th century may not be unprecedented over the last 2000 years; the temperature of two peaks at AD 1080 and AD 1250 during the MCA are comparable.

    (2) Spatial patterns in the dry–wet index ensemble mean for eastern China (i.e., the mainland region approximately east of 105◦E and south of 40◦N) across all centennial warm periods correspond to a tripole pattern of dry conditions south of 25◦N, wet conditions between 25◦N and 30◦N, and dry conditions north of 30◦N. In contrast, ensemble mean spatial patterns exhibit an east-to-west distribution for centennial cold periods, with wet conditions dominant east of 115◦E and dry conditions prevalent west of 115◦E, albeit with a wetness exception around 110◦E. An increase in precipitation in the monsoonal regions of China corresponding with 20th century warming can primarily be attributed to a mega-ENSO (one significant cause of interannual-to-interdecadal variations in global SST), as well as the AMO.

    (3) Results show a significant association between the occurrences of locusts, human plagues, and long-term climate variation in eastern China, with more locusts recorded in dry and cold conditions. However, plague intensity responses to changes in wet and dry conditions are different in northern and southern China; plague intensity has generally increased with wetness in northern China, while high precipitation has historically had a negative effect in the south. These findings reported in this paper may improve our understanding of whether or not the warming observed in the 20th century can be considered exceptional within the past regional context. We have also explored changes in spatial patterns of dryness and wetness, as well as the temporal and spatial occurrences of locusts and plagues in China in response to climate warming, and our results provide insights for successful adaptation in the future. The results presented here will also be useful for further studies regarding the sensitivity of regional climate warming to CO2 concentrations, as well as climate dynamics, at decadal to centennial scales.
     
    #56     Aug 26, 2017
  7. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Sea level rise is all made up bullshit.

    New study demonstrates that there is no acceleration in sea level but satellite data is manipulated to illustrate fake ass acceleration.

    http://www.ijesi.org/papers/Vol(6)8/Version-1/G0608014851.pdf

    Sea Level Manipulation

    Abstract: Sea level changes is a key issue in the global warming scenario. It has been widely claimed that sea is rising as a function of the late 20th’s warming pulse. Global tide gauge data sets may vary between +1.7 mm/yr to +0.25 mm/yr depending upon the choice of stations. At numerous individual sites, available tide gauges show variability around a stable zero level. Coastal morphology is a sharp tool in defining ongoing changes in sea level. A general stability has been defined in sites like the Maldives, Goa, Bangladesh and Fiji. In contrast to all those observations, satellite altimetry claim there is a global mean rise in sea level of about 3.0 mm/yr. In this paper, it is claimed that the satellite altimetry values have been “manipulated”. In this situation, it is recommended that we return to the observational facts, which provides global sea level records varying between ±0.0 and +1.0 mm/yr; i.e. values that pose no problems in coastal protection.

    V. CONCLUSION Satellite altimetry is a new elegant tool to view the changes in sea level over the globe, maybe especially the spatial changes, which, indeed, verified the long-term notion that sea level change over the last 5000-6000 years are dominated by the redistribution of water masses [29]. The temporal changes, on the other hand, has always remained very questionable as they seem to over-estimate observed sea level changes by 100- 400% [9-16]. It seems quite weird to claim that it would be the satellite altimetry that is right and that the true observations in the field are wrong (still this is what the people around the IPCC and the Paris agreement at COP21 continue to claim). Fig. 1 reveals what is going on. It is the satellite altimetry data, which have been “corrected” to give a rise in the order of 3.0 mm/yr. This “correction” [19-21] may, of course, be classified as a “manipulation” of facts, like the manipulation temperature measurements recently revealed [1-3]. In this situation, there are all reasons to return to solid observational facts [11-16].Those facts are controllable, and this is a key criterion in science.The global perspective is general stability to a minor rise with variations between ±0.0 and +1.0 mm/yr [16]. This poses no problem for coastal protection. Therefore, we should free the world from the horror issue that low-lying coasts and islands will become seriously flooded in this century. Up to the present, there has been no convincing recording of any acceleration in sea level, rather the opposite: a total lack of any sign of an accelerating trend.
     
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  8. jem

    jem

    this is laudable for environmental reasons and should be treated as such.
    We do need to conserve our resources and our planet.

    Claiming co2 is a pollutant is a political act. It will lead to removal of liberty because you will not have the carbon credits to do what you wish.

    Until there is peer reviewed science showing man made co2 causes warming. All you are doing is fake newsing.

    hint... co2 levels follow natural warming and cooling in our climate data.

     
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    #58     Aug 26, 2017
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  9. jem

    jem

    I wrote about the structure of your argument. Of course you could find a a preacher saying something like that. I stated your argumentation was the cheesy fake news part.
    We can find millions of dumb hillary voters on every issues as well. That doesn't make any body else correct.
    Its fake argument... its the reverse of a fallacious appeal to authority.

    Its.. cheap and its fake fake argument. Its a logical fallacy and your team uses it all the time.


     
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  10. The video isn't an isolated incident. Conservatism as it has evolved into what it is today, is a disease like mad cow disease with similar symptoms. Your whole party has gone insane. And before you say the left is also useless, let me save your breath - I can't stand today's centrist democrats.

    What is incredibly frustrating to someone like me is that the democrats, becoming such utter useless pussies the last 30 years or so, continually move to the right on any issue to compromise and to seem reasonable with people that can't be reasoned with. The end result is that the furniture keeps moving further and further to the wall, where it soon becomes evident there is no room available to "move towards the wall." Any more right and we are no longer America - we are Italy under Mussolini. Or it that doesn't strike a chord, America as it was economically and socially at the turn of 1900!!!!

    In fact, I think that secretly or maybe even in plain sight, a large part of the republicans in power WISHED the democrats moved left and grew a spine, and I don't mean incrementally, I mean with force, so that centrist republicans can move towards what they grew up as the center. Not what "the center" is today. Let me say it in a shocking way [that may surprise] - I would take Teddy Roosevelt over any of these corporate fuck democrats on any day of the week because TR was to the left of them!

    There are quite a few Teddy Roosevelt and even Lincoln republicans around DC - they just don't seem to be able to fight the Koch brothers cult wing of the Republicans. And it is utterly ruining this country by tearing it apart at the seems.


    And I got news for you buddy - the rest of your buddies on ET are on that side of the spectrum.
     
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