Poor Man's Covered Call vs traditional long stock portfolio

Discussion in 'Options' started by morganpbrown, Sep 15, 2021.

  1. While I respect your personal opinion. If you could provide some sources to back your perspective, it'd be much more appreciated.
     
    #21     Sep 15, 2021
  2. destriero

    destriero

    I don't have any source of historical data. Buy 100 SPY and short the 550C and get back to us in 16 months.
     
    #22     Sep 15, 2021
  3. So no credible source? Thanks for your opinion, it makes a bit of sense intuitively though a lot of things in this game ends up being counterintuitive. I'll think about your ideas.
     
    #23     Sep 15, 2021
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  4. Historical data means little, and OK, no credible source. I just wanted to dig deeper into the how and why you could be right, and if I'm wrong that'd be great since it'd mean I've learned something today.
     
    #24     Sep 15, 2021
  5. destriero

    destriero


    Here's your data. https://etfdb.com/etf/OVL/#holdings
     
    #25     Sep 15, 2021
  6. destriero

    destriero

    You want to limit the discussion to CC to prove a point that there is adequate empirical data from BW-funds. I get that you're more interested in proving a point than making money.

    I have no problem posting a real-time model portfolio (real, confirmed trades) of SPY overwrites against the SPY for one year, but I'd like to wager on the outcome. I am paying 5x if I don't beat the TRS of the SPY over one year's time.

    Rules inviolate: Buy 100 SPY and short 2 quarterly (HMUZ) calls against the positions. 20D strike modeled using BSM/binomial/whatever is agreed upon. Calls are rolled (at mkt) upon a strike-touch into the next quarterly series.

    If you're so certain you're correct then you're a fool not to take me up on my public offer.
     
    #26     Sep 15, 2021
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    IIRC, the last person to take a bet against a long-term position call like this got wasted by Dest.

    @Bastion_01 Try it in sim, see how it works out, before you make a real-money bet.
     
    #27     Sep 15, 2021
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  8. EvanDM

    EvanDM

    You rolling the calls down on a down move?
     
    #28     Sep 15, 2021
  9. destriero

    destriero

    No. Only the cover on a strike touch/gap above (or) the upon expiration-roll into the next Q on LTD of the expiring Q-series.
     
    #29     Sep 15, 2021
  10. taowave

    taowave

    "60 delta" short straddle???
    Interesting ..


     
    #30     Sep 15, 2021
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