Polygamy, it's just a lifestyle choice

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by BloodTrader, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. Turok


  2. Yeah, it's lame that they are leaching off the rest of us, but let's keep it in perspective.

    Around 40,000 polygamists including children isn't that much of a drain on society compared to an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants doing the same thing.

    And let's not forget one thing. It isn't illegal for them to claim welfare. By law they are simply adulterers. adultery isn't a crime. Being a "single mother" as a result of adultery also isn't a crime.

    If somebody wants to make adultery a crime, I am all for it. But until then, there is almost no legal recourse for many of these polygamist families. You only hear the stories of underage marriages, but there are also those who aren't underage, but still living off welfare.

    Also remember that they don't care if the state recognizes their marriage. In fact, they prefer that the state doesn't recognize it. If they weren't single mothers, they couldn't collect as much welfare. IMO, if the state would make polygamy legal, those communities would have a really hard time making ends meet, and the males would be less inclined to take additional wives or have more children.
  3. Turok


    >If somebody wants to make adultry a
    >crime, I am all for it.

    Wow -- perhaps the middle east would be more to your liking.

  4. I'm on my way. :D My bullet proof vest just hasn't arrived yet.

    LOL, No I'm not talking about death penalty crime. More like a little community service and an inconvenient fine. I don't think fidelity is all that hard. We've completely thrown accountability/responsibility out the window in this country. I've seen very few situations that benefited from adultery. For some reason the government feels like they can fine me for choosing not to wear my seatbelt, but I can cheat on my wife and create illegitimate children all day long without being touched. Which one is worse for society?
  5. Middle Eastern or Western nations, Islam or Christianity, makes no difference. The goal is always the same, achieve capitulation, through persuasion or coercion.
  6. Turok


    >I don't think fidelity is all that hard.

    While I don't disagree, I don't think it's difficulty is a valid point when it comes to determining government intervention.

    >We've completely thrown accountability/responsibility
    >out the window in this country.

    I agree, but I hardly think that a broken promise of certain sexual behavior between two people is a good place to take a stand government wise.

    >I've seen very few situations that benefited from adultery.

    There are many things with "no benefit" that we don't ask the government to control. Perhaps I tell you I will respond to your posts at a later date and then don't -- a government sanction, or a lesson learned ??

    >For some reason the government feels like they can
    >fine me for choosing not to wear my seatbelt, but I
    >can cheat on my wife and create illegitimate children
    >all day long without being touched. Which one is worse for >society?

    I'm having a hard time figuring out what you consider the "crime".

    A: Is it "adultery"?
    If so, then leave the kids out of it -- it's quite possible and common to copulate and not procreate.

    B: Is it creating "illegitimate children"
    If so, then leave the "adultery" out of it -- plenty of illegitimate children are created without adultery.

    If you're saying both should be illegal, then you have become A: the ultimate government snoop in the bedroom, and B: a governmental licensing process for procreation approval.

  7. bluud


    no adultery is illegal in most states

    "In the United States, laws vary from state to state. For example, in Pennsylvania, adultery is technically punishable by 2 years of imprisonment or 18 months of treatment for insanity (for history, see Hamowy) (criminal statute repealed 1972), while in Michigan the Court of Appeals, the state's second-highest court, ruled that a little-known provision of state criminal law means that adultery carries a potential life sentence.[2] In Maryland, adultery is punishable by a fine of $10."



    once you really review the laws you realize there is no such thing as freedom ... they tell you how to and how not to live ... everyone wants to act God ... and God is lame ... I think it is sick to waste time over such stupid and small issues when we have serious problems to deal with
  8. Tukor,

    No, I was mainly joking.

    The part I was serious about was that our government seems to have a knack for intervening in matters of no consequence, and staying completely out of matters that could affect society.

    Also, we can't really complain about people working the system. It is our elected officials making the laws that allow them to work the system.

    Ever since shows like Big Love and Warren Jeffs trials have become popular convo, people seem to want gov intervention on the grounds of them cheating the welfare system. I don't think people understand what that intervention entails. Like you said, the government snooping into the bedroom.
    #10     Oct 24, 2007