Polling 2024

Discussion in 'Politics' started by poopy, Jul 28, 2024.

2024 Election Outcome

Poll closed Nov 5, 2024.
  1. Trump Loses

    46.2%
  2. Harris Wins

    69.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #241     Sep 30, 2024
  2. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Link to the Democrat polling?

    Politicos saying they are behind to raise more money is the oldest tactic in the book.
     
    #242     Sep 30, 2024
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As outlined previously - Atlas Intel is not "the most accurate polling". Far from it. They are self-declaring themselves to be the most accurate polls -- which is laughable.
     
    #243     Sep 30, 2024
  4. Businessman

    Businessman

    The numbers are so bad the Dems don't release them, someone leaked that video of Elissa Slotkin admitting how bad the numbers are in Michigan, LOL. It wasn't supposed to be made public.
     
    #244     Sep 30, 2024
  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Nate silver says they are. And it’s moved his model significantly.
     
    #245     Sep 30, 2024
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    How does a single poll move a model consisting of hundreds of polls significantly?
     
    #246     Sep 30, 2024
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    because he considers them to be reliable. His own tweet
     
    #247     Sep 30, 2024
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You realize that 538 no longer is connected to Matt Silver. He left in April of 2023.

    G. Elliott Morris took Silver's place in running 538 at ABC.

    And let me ask -- where is Silver's tweet. Obviously Silver would not state that a single poll from Atlas Intel heavily outweighs over polls to move a model significantly; it may have moved the model slightly being a recent poll from a qualified source -- especially if it targeted a single state rather than national polls.

    Silver's statement may indicate that Atlas Intel is reliable; unlike Rasmussen and Trafalgar they were not removed from modeling. His statement may have stated that the model had moved after a recent Atlas Intel poll was added to it -- but it is doubtful Silver would state that a single poll moved a model significantly. This type of statement would undermine his entire credibility and all of his previous poll modeling work.
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2024
    #248     Sep 30, 2024
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I am aware that Nate silver left 538.
    I misread the tweet. he said that the poll is reliable but it was already neck and neck. He was 60/40 Kamala like a week ago
     
    #249     Sep 30, 2024
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I will agree that Atlas Intel is deemed to be reliable by 538 and other poll aggregators -- hence it is included in their summaries. The races in nearly all the battleground states are neck to neck with the polls within the margins of error. The national polls show Harris with a several point lead which does not mean much. This election still can go either way -- it is effectively 50-50. The projections will swing around this mid-point a bit on the odds of winning but probably always within a 60-40 band unless some significant event occurs before the election bringing major change to the projections.
     
    #250     Sep 30, 2024