POLL: Who is Jesus to You?

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by rcanfiel, Dec 14, 2007.

POLL: Who is Jesus to You?

  1. He is a misquoted/misunderstood jewish rabbi

    35 vote(s)
    23.8%
  2. He could be the promised messiah, but I don't believe he was God

    3 vote(s)
    2.0%
  3. He is God/Creator and His sovereign grace is the singular means to my salvation

    45 vote(s)
    30.6%
  4. He was a leader with a cause, like Ralph Nader or Jesse Jackson

    4 vote(s)
    2.7%
  5. He was possibly deranged, like Charles Manson or Jim Jones

    7 vote(s)
    4.8%
  6. He was an influential teacher, similar to Gandhi

    16 vote(s)
    10.9%
  7. He is a prophet of God, similar to Ezekiel or Mohammad

    8 vote(s)
    5.4%
  8. Following his example & doing good works is the singular means to my salvation

    2 vote(s)
    1.4%
  9. He probably never existed

    12 vote(s)
    8.2%
  10. Something else

    15 vote(s)
    10.2%
  1. as obviously being an alias does the same for you.
     
    #231     Jan 17, 2008
  2. Here is another good one. There is a person on the internet, who thinks he is the Son of God and Jesus.

    And he hasn't been committed yet. Maybe Charles Manson needs a cellmate :D
     
    #232     Jan 17, 2008
  3. Turok

    Turok

    Rcan:
    >as obviously being an alias does the same for you.

    I love this whole "alias" think Rcan keeps falling back on when he's got nothing else.

    Like "rcanfield" is actually his/her legal name rather than an "alias" of some sort. I mean I use my actually initials (JB) to sign off, but even that is an "alias".

    JB
     
    #233     Jan 17, 2008
  4. Well like you said, the gate is small.
    Like I said, the road is narrow.

    Paul wanted to widen the road and make it more popular.
    But that road leads to Paul.
    Paul's gospel.
    Pauline Christianity.
    Paul radio stations.

    Paul wanted a bodily resurrection.
    This fact alone completely disqualifies his viewpoints,
    and messes up his theology,
    and exposes him as an interloper.

    Any theology that divides the Son of God into
    saved vs condemned is certifiably schizophrenic.
    You misunderstand God's patience,
    the function of time,
    and the journey of the individual soul concept.

    Jesus
     
    #234     Jan 17, 2008
  5. Yes, I appreciated Plato's parable of the "Cave".
    The concept of individual souls has been reinforced
    by eons of repetition over time.
    Likewise, the idea of the world as real and solid has been
    hypnotically induced by relentless psychololgical suggestion.
    So the dispelling of this mind-trick may not come overnight.
    Everyone is free to leave the cave, but for mental blocks.

    Let us not underestimate the power of the mind.
    Hypnotists are able to blind the eyes to the presence of
    certain objects in the room.
    This shows that it is not the eyeballs which see,
    but rather the filters set up in the mind.
    The "reality" of the world is seen through a powerful mind-filter.
    When the hypnotic spell is dispelled,
    it is clearly seen that the mind-filters blinded the vision of reality.
    You can take comfort in the fact that what the eyeballs see is not real,
    and the real Self cannot be harmed.

    Children symbolize a mind that is already "ruined",
    whose self-awareness has been severely restricted
    by the imposition of the concept of guilt.
    Children represent aspects of mind which have denied reality,
    forcing the experience of an alternative existence.
    Childbirth, you have to admit, is rather strange.
    What, but a dream, gives birth to strange circumstances?

    The problem is simply...
    People underestimate the power of mind...their own minds.
    They have long forgotten what the mind is capable of.
    Bodily existence is an outpicturing of mental processes.
    Everything in form is a symbol of subconscious beliefs.

    It's simple, but seriously resisted by minds so long trapped in flesh.
    Identifying as flesh weakens the mind, that is, the awareness of it's power.
    It's power is constant and unmitigated at all times.
    It entraps itself when true and false are held in mind without distinction.

    Jesus
     
    #235     Jan 17, 2008
  6. I understand it perfectly well. But I think scripture has about a 2500+ year head start on you. It has a lot more traction than a divine imposter.

    And I didn't see where you demonstrated the evidence that you were Jesus.

    Thiose 3 words on my board please?
     
    #236     Jan 17, 2008
  7. cmaxb

    cmaxb

    I agree there (though, they are "ruined" by us).
     
    #237     Jan 17, 2008
  8. The world had a head-start too.
    Six thousand, a million, a billion.
    Doesn't matter.
    I came along and said it does not exist.
    Can it be written into existence?
    Never.
    But while you believe it, it is real for you.
    You believe it because you want it.
    What you want, God will not take from you.

    God will wait until you realize you do not want it.
    Six thousand, a million, a billion
    Doesn't matter.
    I came along and said it will all pass away.
    The lost sheep will be gathered together according to the laws of mind.
    These are God's laws.
    You will believe them,
    and what you do not want will fade away.

    Jesus
     
    #238     Jan 18, 2008
  9. Quote from I am...:

    The world had a head-start too.
    Six thousand, a million, a billion.
    Doesn't matter.
    I came along and said it does not exist.

    Again, I didn't see where you demonstrated the evidence that you were Jesus? All the prose and gum-klapping in the world is pointless if you continue to delude yourself.

    Can it be written into existence?
    Never.
    But while you believe it, it is real for you.
    You believe it because you want it.
    What you want, God will not take from you.

    It has nothing to do with what anyone believes. Human beliefs are irrelevant. People used to believe many things that have proven to be incorrect.

    Many people here state beliefs founded on nothing more than their own horrendously limited view. "I don't (or do) believe in God. Therefore that settles it"

    Truthfully, it has no value, relevant, or meaning.



    God will wait until you realize you do not want it.
    Six thousand, a million, a billion
    Doesn't matter.
    I came along and said it will all pass away.

    Those 3 words on my board please? You didn't come anywere. You didn't do anything except prove you are pitiful.
     
    #239     Jan 18, 2008
  10. Religion.. what a scam to fleece the ignorant

    Tell em the world is flat and they'll eat it if you file it under faith
     
    #240     Jan 19, 2008