oh my... *shakes head smiling* sorry, but i don't waste my time with pinheads. read some books about this, get a clue, then come back and talk to me. :-/
...it's so cute when people who lack college science coursework try to argue with evolution... ...it'd be like me sitting here trying to convince you guys that a stork dropped me in my parents chimney... ...or maybe a UNICORN brought me!!! :eek:
Gekko, seriously now, I urge you to do just that yourself. Because boy o fucking boy are you way off base if you think the case is as open/shut as you love to believe it is. (And why do you love to believe it: pyschology).
that's what all this is. uneducated people with terrible critical thinking skills trying to explain the universe. it's god damn ridiculous!!
Is this an intellectual pursuit based on courteous dialogue or a kindergarten class? If none of you wish to discuss the topic like gentlemen and respect other peoples beliefs then I will not be a part of name calling and personal attacks. If this is how you answer intelligent questions.... If this is how you defend your belief system and worldview.... ......then I want no part of it.
A text of a dialogue with a creationist: ": What is the principle evidence for Creationism? A: The Holy Bible, of course. After all, is it likely that the author of the Universe would be mistaken about its age? Q: But isn't the Bible religion and not science? A: Truth is truth. It's a poor sort of science that ignores truth. Q: But isn't there a lot of evidence for evolution? A: Not really, most of it is from university professors writing papers for each other. If they didn't write papers they wouldn't have jobs. Q: How big was Noah's ark? A: Big enough. Q: But what about radioactive dating? A: Hey, everybody knows that stuff is bad for you. Stick with good Christian girls. Q: What about the fossil evidence? A: The real fossils are university professors writing papers for each other. Q: Is there any other evidence for Creationism besides the Bible? A: Yes. Q: Can you give us some? A: Yes. Q: Could you give us a specific example? A: Yes. Q: What be a specific example of evidence for Creationism? A: I've already answered that question. Q: What about the Antarctic ice core data? A: Now I put it to you. Coop up a bunch of men in a Quonset hut in the worst weather in the world, with nothing to do but gather data and drink, and what do you expect? Q: Did the dinosaurs coexist with man? A: Look, the liberals were preaching coexistence with the Communists, and you saw what happened to them. Q: Should Creationism be taught along with Evolution in the schools? A: Creationism should be taught instead of Evolution in the schools. Q: Doesn't the Geologic Column prove that the Earth is very old? A: The geologic column proves that some things are on top of other things and some things are underneath other things. But we already knew that, didn't we. Q: Hasn't Evolution been demonstrated in the laboratory? A: Students are demonstrating everywhere these days. To their shame, many professors are demonstrating also. Q: Aren't Hawiian wallabies an example of Evolution in action? A: No. Q: Why not? A: Because they aren't. Q: What is a kind? A: A kind is cards of the same rank. Thus 4 aces and a king are four of a kind, but four spades and a heart are not. Q: Doesn't genetic variation indicate that life has been going on a long time? A: Let's be up front about this. That's deviation, not variation, and yes, there is a lot of deviancy out there. That just shows that there has been a lot of Sin since the garden of Eden. Q: What about Neanderthal Man? A: Hey, you take one of those geezers and put him in tweeds and give him a pipe and he could be a professor anywhere. Q: Some scientists state that the earth's continents are drifting around on top of a molten interior which has shaped life as we see it now. Are they right? A: As you well know the Bible says that beneath the surface of the earth is Hell where there is eternal fires and brimstone. If the continents appear to be moving around that is Satan's doing. Q: Why do almost all of the scientists believe in Evolution? A: The real scientists don't. As for the rest of them, that's a very good question, isn't it? Q: Are you talking about a Satanic conspiracy? A: Did I say anything about a conspiracy? You might want to think about the shape the world is in since the Evolutionists and the Liberal Humanists captured academia and Evolution is hand in hand with Godless Communism and crime in the streets but I certainly wouldn't want to say anything about a Satanic conspiracy. I just want you to think about it with an open mind. " DS
Well, you're basically talking about two different religions - fundamentalist Islam, as practised by the like of the Taliban, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc; and moderate Islam, as practised by Indonesia, Malaysia, Jordan, United Arab Emirates etc. I don't think lumping them together helps the cause of eradicating fundamentalism - hence the stupidity of Bush calling Islam a "religion of peace". What he should have said was "religious fundamentalism is evil - good Muslims, Christians, and Jews practise the peaceable version of their religion" then cited some examples. If you bash or support Islam as a whole, you just come across either as an extremist or a complete relativist.