Not only that...but 777 believes that ONLY HIS personal relationship with god is the REAL one! LMAOOOO. (Since he consistently rejected my OLD one with god and any other persons which contradicts HIS ) And he calls US pridefull! LMAO! peace axeman
Your projection of intellectual superiority fits with the pattern of failed theists who must necessarily convince others and themselves that they are correct in their belief systems, that they have made the right choice. Any crack in the armor of their belief system would lead them to re-experience the pain of their personal failure that led to their rejection of the discipline and practice of faith. You can easily find a theist who will say, "I don't know, but I do believe, I have faith." You will rarely find an open minded and honest atheist who will admit they might be wrong, and that they are actually just practicing a different belief system than the one they had before. If you define God that you once worshiped as Eternal, Unlimited, Absolute, Perfect, Omnipresent, Loving, Omniscient and Supreme then I don't reject your God, He is the same God as the God of my understanding and the object of my faith. If people choose to worship or believe in a god who is less than I have described, that is their choice too.
ah, i tend to disagree with the above statement. it is elementary that creation dictates a creator. best, surfer
however, i am still waiting for an answer to the biblical contradictions listed by axeman. if the bible was proven to be false, this in no way would change my belief that there was (is) a creator. it is very logical to me. best, surfer
Funny post coming from a FAILED ATHEIST. LMAO your just bitter that atheism failed you. LMAO. Your childish logic is so obviously flawed. If you define God that you once worshiped as Eternal, Unlimited, Absolute, Perfect, Omnipresent, Loving, Omniscient and Supreme then I don't reject your God, He is the same God as the God of my understanding and the object of my faith. And the same god I finally realized was a fantasy which only existed in my head, like an invisible friend to a child. You sure this is the same god? I agree, it is. Your god is just a childhood fantasy stuck in your head I just finally learned to ditch mine. peace axeman
GA: Do you believe in God? axeman: I do not believe in God GA: Can you prove that God does not exist? axeman: NO. God does not exist because I said so. GA: How did the world come into being? axeman: I do not know. I do not care. I hate God. You are stupid. Your arguments are dumb and beneath me. No one can prove me wrong because I have not admitted nor denied anything. I have not taken a stance on anything therefore I can not be wrong. Religious people are stupid. I'm stupid. We are all stupid. and you call this intelligent discourse? You simply speak as one who has not studied the facts carefully enough to make a declarative statement. Your thinking is flawed and is unscientific. You clearly are not willing to examine any evidence here but rather just listen to yourself talk.
Actually, your did not realize your faith was fantasy, you concluded that. There is a big difference between a conclusion of the mind, and reality independent of human thought. You don't have objective certainty or proof that your faith was not real. You simply made a choice. Many people have concluded reality throughout the ages intellectually, and have been wrong. More honestly, you came to your own conclusion, which you accept as reality not only for you, but for all others, and have now adopted as your practice of faith in the same manner people practice faith in God. You turned your faith from God who by definition is Supreme, Eternal, etc. to faith in a limited material mind. You may believe you worshiped a fantasy, but you have no proof that you did. For you would have to prove that God doesn't exist to prove that it was a fantasy. That is your choice of course. Everyone makes a choice to trust something, and serve somebody. In the words of Bob Dylan: Gotta Serve Somebody Bob Dylan You may be an ambassador to England or France, You may like to gamble, you might like to dance, You may be the heavyweight champion of the world, You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed You're gonna have to serve somebody, Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody. You might be a rock 'n' roll addict prancing on the stage, You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage, You may be a business man or some high degree thief, They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed You're gonna have to serve somebody, Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody. You may be a state trooper, you might be a young Turk, You may be the head of some big TV network, You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame, You may be living in another country under another name But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed You're gonna have to serve somebody, Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody. You may be a construction worker working on a home, You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome, You might own guns and you might even own tanks, You might be somebody's landlord, you might even own banks But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed You're gonna have to serve somebody, Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody. You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride, You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side, You may be workin' in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair, You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed You're gonna have to serve somebody, Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody. Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk, Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk, You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread, You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed You're gonna have to serve somebody, Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody. You may call me Terry, you may call me Timmy, You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy, You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray, You may call me anything but no matter what you say You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed You're gonna have to serve somebody. Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Good arguments by the way. Thank you for your tactful reply. Your response to my post was very well thought out. However I disagree. heres why............. however lack of knowledge about something origins does not make its existence go away or in anyway shape or form dismiss the fact that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." -Genesis 1:1
I'm not running away but I do have to sign off now. We can pick up this discussion tommorow. have a great evening.