Good post.... It is clear to see nothing more than dogma on both side of this Christianity vs. Islam debate. Most here have not read even one of these books in it's entirety, not to mention both of them.
only few have interest in esoteric pursuits. however, this few is growing. you need to read "techgnosis" to see the connections i am speaking of. your friend...
Also see: "The Face that demonstrates the farce of evolution." By: Hank Hanegraaff "The Case for Christ" By: Lee Strobel You can research thousands of articles, books, magazines on the subject of the Historical relevance of the Bible and the Bible as divine rather than human in origin. you can order these and much much more through the Christian Research Institute. http://www.equip.org/ (No affiliation)
I hear SATANISM is pretty evil (by definition, really). The rest of these groups are evil in the eyes of some for doing the exact same things their favored religions do with their blessing. The Satanists don't have any oil-bearing land, and they weren't considering ditching the US greenback in favor of the Euro for their billion dollar oil transactions (which would have massively hurt the States' propped up Superpower status), so I guess they're okay in comparison to some other groups who we'd like to think are true evil. It's an old rule that you have to demonize 'the enemy' and cause extreme polarization of your unwashed masses before you can act with authority and conviction and do something extremely unethical in the name of justice. And we see this happening all the time. I leave it up to your blinded eyes to discern this manipulation for yourselves.
LOL. 777 proves again that he doesnt understand the terminology. Atheism is a LACK OF THEISTIC belief. If you know NOTHING of god, then your are in fact an atheist. An agnostic REQUIRES knowledge of god, because and agnostic is in an "undecided" state about gods existence. You were in FACT born an atheist, like all humans, by definition. And using your own logic, YOU ARE A FAILED ATHEIST! Further, using your own poisoning the well fallacy, you simply are bitter about atheism failing you, and this is the ONLY reason you are a theist! LMAOOOO.... Poor poor failed atheist. He just couldn't stand the truth, and ran to theism with his tail between his legs because he feared death so much. What a wuss! peace axeman
I have removed myself from debating people as completely clueless as you. Anyone who cant even understand that NOT KNOWING why something occurs, IN NO WAY provides proof for someone elses baseless assertion is simply far too ignorant of simple reasoning skills to even waste a breath on. You have clearly shown this to be the case. Previously I stated: "Helloooo...the lack of an explanation for one thing ** IS NOT ** equivalent to proof for someone else's hypothesis." And you replied: "However if YOU fail to give a rational, logical alternative explanation .............it does!" It absolutely does NOT, and people have already explained why. This proves beyond ANY DOUBT that you LACK basic reasoning skills. I would be quite embarrassed to post a reply this idiotic. Go back to school, and ask your professors why this reply is so completely stupid. I could easily continue to shred your replies point for point, but there is no point, since you fail to grasp these simple concepts. Further, after explaining the definition of atheism, and that it is a LACK of theistic belief, you replied: "I understand MORE about atheism than YOU do." Neener Neener! This is NOT a reasoned reply/argument, this is a baseless statement. In fact, if flies in the face of the obvious truth, that you have NO CLUE what atheism is. I feel like im debating against a small child here When you have something to bring to the table, come back, because you obviously lack the most basic of debating and reasoning skills. It's glaringly obvious. . peace axeman
You are the most ignorant individual I have ever debated on this subject. You claim to understand logic and reason but you do not. Again you have dodged the most important aspect of this debate.....How do you explain the origin of the universe?
It is now time to blow your silly illogical ramblings out of water. IS ATHEISM LOGICAL? Atheism is the world view that denies the existence of God. More specifically, traditional atheism argues that there never was and never will be a God. But is this position rationally justifiable? Atheism positively affirms that there is no God. But can the atheist be certain of this claim? You see, to know that a transcendent God does not exist would require a perfect knowledge of all things (omniscience). To attain this knowledge you would have to have simultaneous access to all parts of the universe (omnipresence). Therefore, as an atheist, to be certain of this claim you would have to possess Godlike characteristics. Obviously, mankind's limited nature precludes these special abilities. The atheist's dogmatic claim is therefore clearly unjustifiable. The atheist is attempting to prove a universal negative. In terms of logic this is called a logical fallacy. The atheistic world view is inadequate for many other reasons as well. First, atheism cannot adequately explain the existence of the world. Like all other things, the world in which we live cries out for an explanation which is clearly beyond itself -- however, the atheist is unable to provide one. Second, the atheistic world view is unable to provide the necessary preconditions to account for the laws of science, the universal laws of logic -- and, of course, absolute moral standards. In short, the atheistic world view cannot account for the meaningful realities of life. If individual atheists are serious about truth when it comes to God, let them consider the claims of Jesus Christ. He claimed to be none other than God in human flesh (John 1:1). This astounding claim was supported, however, by his matchless personal character, His fulfillment of predictive prophecy, His incredible influence on human history -- and most importantly, the historical fact of His resurrection from the dead. The evidence is definitely there for the skeptic to analyze. As Francis Schaeffer, the noted apologist, stated: "God is there and He is not silent." God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself (2 Cor. 5:19). Ultimately man does not deny the existence of God for lack of evidence, but because man does not want to be accountable to his creator.