Well....I do think we did take the "spoils" in the U.S. versus the American Indian Wars. The Mexicans argue that we did as well with California and much of the Southwest. Fortunately, possession is 9/10th of the law.
I keep hearing the same baseless arguments form all the same guys and they never answer the question, but in the most simple of terms, if America was an imperialistic oil hungry country like all these people claim.........CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY WE TAKE ISRAEL'S BACK?......Wouldn't it make more sense to befriend the Arab countries for the last 50 years and tell Israel to screw off???? maybe it's something more than oil? I would love somebody to tell me why we would befriend Israel and stand behind her through thick and thin despite the threats and wars with the oil producing nations.. And please spare me the lobbyist part because the oil companies are in large part in the south west and last time i checked there's not a lot jewish influence there.
yes good point tmdirect it's one of those huge misconceptions they teach to naive college students, along with the EMH. have you heard of noam chomsky? i think's he's the pinko idiot who popularized this oil bullshit.
I heard him on a talk show a couple years ago " Criticizing the U.S" for having this strong of a relationship with Israel...He took some eat for it too but his point was well taken...He said that the Arabs have the oil and it's best for America to have strong relations with them even if it was at the expense of Israel.
Don't be so naive. I can name ten good reasons why we support Israel right off the bat: 1. Henry Kissinger 2. Alan Greenspan 3. Ruth Bader Ginsburg 4. Ari Fleischer 5. Senator Joseph Lieberman 6. Steven Spielberg 7. Mayor Michael Bloomberg 8. Steve Ballmer 9. Mortimer Zuckerman 10. Michael Ovitz Not real hard to figure out, huh?
Don't be so naive. I can name ten good reasons why we support Israel right off the bat: 1. Henry Kissinger 2. Alan Greenspan 3. Ruth Bader Ginsburg 4. Ari Fleischer 5. Senator Joseph Lieberman 6. Steven Spielberg 7. Mayor Michael Bloomberg 8. Steve Ballmer 9. Mortimer Zuckerman 10. Michael Ovitz Not real hard to figure out, huh? You mean to tell me those names carry more clout then EXXO Mobile and all the energy providers?...also, how many came into prominence before 1980?...yet we supported israel against the oil rich countries...
I don't know the names of influential Jews from the 1940s-1980s (aside from Kissinger) but I'm sure there were many in the financial and real estate industries. I guess it also boils down to the fact that Israel is the only Middle East country that is most similar to the US in terms of government ideology and cultural beliefs. Plus, American Jews are caucasian. I'm sure there are racial undercurrents involved though many would not openly admit it...
I respect your opinion, but this is my problem: I keep hearing over and over thet "its all about the oil" Yet when people mention valid proof against this argument, we go off in a different direction....Again, im asking a simple question: If it is ALL ABOUT OIL...why would the us ( and especially with all these texas oil companies) align themselves with israel? Our relationship with Israel has been a detriment in our relationship with the Oil producing countries...If it was just about oil why would we back israel? Imperialistic and aggressive military machines like they allege the us is, would not care one iota about Israel....we would be buddies with the oil countries...unless im missing something?