Quote from ElCubano: Thats the problem nobody but you cares if RS7 has lied or not on a internet forum (which is a place where no one lies)....you have become obssesed and you look like a fool.... My vote was deleted..but I will put it up for you again....you are a spineless spin queen, nothing would bring me greater joy than to be able to piss on your grave........
Fair enough, I agree with all of your points. The only thing is that you suggest those hate groups are just promoting peacefully their ideas. It's like if you forgot about your history. Look Optional, I am not what you think. I do not hate the USA, and I even believe that the american achived great things and I thank them for that. The point where I differ with most americans is that America is far from being perfect. I cannot accept your critics about germany and the Nazi regim if you forgot about the bloody history of your own country. Indians, Black, Asians (especially chinese) and even Jews were persecuted in the US. I am not talking about the foreign policy of the USA that perpetrated surely more dead in the world than the second world war. I am from the third world, and I know that many good men were killed for promoting democracy and human rights in their own country and were usually killed by CIA agents.. I am basing my view on facts and not on a manichean vision of the world the good and the bad. I even think that you americans have nothing to do in all those crimes, since, somewhat you are the victims of a system...
You are certainly the most pevert person I have ever seen. So Wild never said he is a nazy and because he said I don't care you're accusing me a nazy he is a NAzy???? Something is wrong here or is your logic a bit distorted??? Concerning the USA, I am fed up to hear the same thing, we saved the world and all that bullshit!!!! You won the war (period) and it was your interest to do it. Not to save the jews. You did not give a fuck of human rights, democracy etc.. you had superior interets on your agenda which were world supremacy, and it had nothing to do with democracy and human rights??? Why do I say that?? Because your allies France and Great Britain were the biggest criminal on the planet. They colonised numerous countries and what was reproched to the Nazis was also done by them.. and the whole planet knows it. So you did not save the planet but you helped your friends (period). Your foreign and even domestic policy shows it. Outside, all the main dictators were supported by you and democrats killed by you. Mossadech and Lumumba comes to my mind but there are many others. On the domestic front, the black people were still under discriminatory rules and they had to wait the 60's in order to be considered "normal citizens"...
http://www.sci.pfu.edu.ru/~asemenov/lumumba/LUMUMBA.HTM http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/974745.stm 1960 took a marked anti-imperialist line. The young republic in the heart of Africa where, in Lumumba's view, political independence was not to be an end in itself but the prerequisite for thorough social and economic changes and which wanted to pursue a non-aligned foreign policy, immediatly brought the domestic and foreign reactionaires into the arena, who, finally, under the guidance of the CIA translated their long-cherished plans into bitter reality. Patrice Lumumba had become the victim of an insidious imperialist plot. The pioneer of African unity died after bestial torture on the night from 17 to 18 January 1961 in Elisabethville at the hands of his murderers. The promising country was turned into a neocolonial state. The ideas of Lumumba, that great patriot and fervent advocate of African unity, however, live in the hearts and minds of his people and the peoples of a whole continent. "The only thing we wanted for our country was the right to a decent existence, to dignity without hypocrisy , to independence without restrictions... The day will come when history will have its say." From his farewell letter to his wife
Mine is not a criticism of the current state of Germany, I congratulate them if they are practicing democracy in their actions. However, it is an historical fact that if not for the actions of the Allied forces in WWII, democracy in Germany would not have begun 50 years ago. It is also the case in Japan, as they now have a democratic process at work. The Germans did not come to a Democratic government in the same way the United States did. They came to that conclusion after their former goverment was crushed by the Allies and the Soviets. The Americans, with all of our flaws which history shows, started out with ideals and we have been trying to grow into those ideals for over 200 years. We have a lot more to do. We have since our beginnings grown as a country and have a social concience that is attempting to evolve......as women, and those of a minority status can vouch for when they go to the voting booth, a right they did not always have. There was a time when they could not vote, now they can. It is an evolutionary process, and I happen to have faith and hope that America as a country will continue grow and change. I am going to give an analogy that I am sure you won't like, but I believe it is appropriate and goes to the issue of progressing and evolving into more of what we all want our respective countries to be. In the circles of recovery from alcohol, drugs and other life challenging problems, many addicts delve into their early childhoods. The majority find and accept that they suffered abuse from their parents. I have witnessed two different responses among those addicts who attempt to recover once they fully accept what happened in their past. Some blame their parents for their current state of life and choose to stay in blaming mode so as not to change their bad habits. It is easy for them to rationalize their sad state of affairs, once they conclude it was not their fault that they turned out the way they did, as they were innocent victims----they cannot change the past, and are now damaged for life. They remain in this victim mode, and make no progress in real recovery from the childhood pain that binds them into their self destructive thinking. They remain locked into their world of an inner child who is feeling sorry for themselves. They continue to wait for their parents to provide restitution, to restore them to a whole status, to give them the love and acceptance they never received........and it never happens......and neither does their recovery process. Others accept what happened to them as innocent children, get angry for a while, but eventually forgive those who perpetrated abuse on them, and accept fully the responsibility and need to change themselves if they want to grow out of their suffering. They end up recovering and moving forward as adults. I see you the same way. Sure, bad things happened to the native Americans, blacks, hispanics, jews, catholics, women, children, etc. That is all in the past, undeniable. Bad things will happen in life, just the way life is. However, the past cannot be changed. It is what it is. Whether or not an adult recovers from their past is their choice, or stays stuck in it is also their choice. It is how we deal with the past going forward that determines our fate and emotional and mental well being. Strangely enough, this ties in with the mentality of a good trader, who doesn't blame the market makers, the brokerage firms, or others for their failures and negative situations in the markets. They accept full responsibility for where they are right now, today, and take the necessary steps to improve, learn and grow.....they move forward and evolve. It is an adult approach to life, and adult approach to trading. Some get there, some don't. It is a personal choice.
So, then the actions of the Isreali freedom fighters against their British oppressors must be justifiable to you. Am I reading you correctly? All the talk about the Israeli terrorists and how they bombed the King David Hotel .... all this was directed not at the "palestinians" (arabs at the time), but at the British. So I guess you must be a supporter of those actions according to what you say here. Is this right? (BTW, do you know WHY they bombed the hotel?) Peace, rs7
You made some good comments here. And of course, it's easy to blame the others. One should take responsibility for what happens to him and I cannot refute that. Germany has grown and evolved and though I am not german and certainly not a fan of the nazi who considers Jews and Arabs alike, I belive that we should turn the page and focus on the present. I don't think a war on Iraq is what should be done by the USA and history has proved to us that War should be avoided at all costs. Of course, Saddam is a dictator. But what scares me is the way opinions suddenly changed in europe. Before 1990 Saddam was a laic and moderate dictator in favour of the west. Whatever crimes he commited, nothing was taken into account. After 1990, when invading Koweit, a tiny country of 600,000 inhabitants, this guy became Hitler???? and hatred spread on all arabs. I recall walls on where it was written kill all the arabs ort fuck the arabs... Saddam was killed and what was one of the most developped country in the middle east became a poor country and the USA never stopped bombarding this country. more than 1.5 million people died. Of course, you can say that this is Saddam's fault, like G Bush does, but is it true??? The Iraqi People has done nothing to deserve this and the USA should have avoided the killings of innocent civilians at all costs. If this was the case, I would have been the first to say, GOD BLESS AMERICA. But this was not. History is repeating itself again and again and all of those killings could have been avoided.
My friend Rs7, British were not the inhabitants of palestine they were colons and the Jews were also not inhabitants of this region of the world and wanted to replace the new colons. Today, is different of course, the jews that are in Israel grew up and were born in Israel. Of course, we can take the case of France, where the French stayed something like 130 years and did not want to quit Algeria saying it was their country.. The french were chased because the conditions under which Algerians were treated were just unbearable, many war crimes were commited in Algeria and this is why I said that the French at that time were no better than the German. You can fight an army but you cannot fight people indifenetely. This reminds me of Spartacus and the time when slaves fought the Romans. Personaly, I hope the situation will improve in Israel and I think it is achievable. I hope that Jews and Arabs will live together. I already lived with jews, and even ate their food, which is delicious, and I think the same could be achieved in Israel/Palestine. Shalom TF