POLL: The repercussions of a US attack on Iraq

freealways this will explain why the thinking people are so motivated :

http://www.csi.ad.jp/ABOMB/

msfe

 

It is beginning to dawn on us Americans why the French are doing what they are doing. These threads say it is all about oil and now we are learning who is now benefitting from the current Iraqi oil status. They don't want anybody else to threaten their position. Also the sale of banned military aircraft parts to Iraq opens up a whole new light on their actions. This superior attitude is beginning to smell.

 

Defense Secretary Calls Old Europe Allies So 1945 in Pentagon Briefing

Hot: Poland and Estonia. Not: France and Germany.

That’s the verdict of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who used a Pentagon briefing today to declare France and Germany “yesterday’s news.”

“Did I call them ‘old Europe’ yesterday?” Rumsfeld said from the Pentagon podium. “Excuse me – I meant ‘sorry old Europe!’”

While some in the Pentagon press corps were surprised by the sarcastic tone of Mr. Rumsfeld’s remarks, the Defense Secretary continued in the same vein, declaring, “France? Germany? Hello!! They are so over!”

But Mr. Rumsfeld’s dissing of France and Germany had just begun.

Secretary Rumsfeld added that he considered such allies as Poland and Estonia “much hotter” nations, adding, “Right now, Eastern Europe has all the juice. Western Europe? Please! They are, like, so 1945.”

Some reporters questioned whether Mr. Rumsfeld’s remarks ran the risk of raising tensions between the U.S. and some of its oldest allies, but the Defense Secretary’s comment on this issue – “Like I care? Hello!” – seemed to indicate a lack of concern on his part.

“If France and Germany have a problem with what I am saying, let them come here and tell me to my face,” Mr. Rumsfeld said. “But they won’t do that, and do you know why? Because they are so totally over!”

Rumsfeld said that the U.S. was currently assembling lists of nations that are “Hot” and nations that are “Not,” but that France and Germany, in his view, were “uber-Not.”

“As far as I’m concerned, France and Germany are the Axis of Over,” Rumsfeld said.



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Iraq demands lifting of sanctions

Saddam Hussein remains defiant as war looms
Saddam Hussein has called for the economic blockade of Iraq to be lifted "totally and comprehensively" following Friday's reports to the United Nations Security Council by its chief weapons inspectors.

Our response should be: Or what...?

 

agin1415:`Secretary Rumsfeld added that he considered such allies as Poland and Estonia “much hotter” nations, adding, “Right now, Eastern Europe has all the juice. Western Europe? Please! They are, like, so 1945.”´

even hotter:

Latvia - http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/lh.html

Lithuania - http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/lh.html

Slovakia - http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/lo.html

 

You fell for that? You really think Rumsfeld talks like a Valley Girl?

 

Are Muslims supporting Bush ?

Is your answer here ? : http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1047111420995

However it still is puzzling to me that just after 9/11 the Muslims were conspicous by their absence in condemning what had happened.

Is the explanation that they were perhaps, deep down in their heart, hoping that their dream that the whole world could be turning upside down and that everybody would be able to be forced to convert to Islam ?

Or was it that the majority was being intimidated by a small group of extremists ?

Is there another possible explanation ?

Those who think they can throw some light onto the subject please respond.

freealways

 

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However it still is puzzling to me that just after 9/11 the Muslims were conspicous by their absence in condemning what had happened.

I actually in the Europeen papers read a lot from Muslem leaders condemning the attack.

 

One explanation I heard is that many who live in the US have family in the Middle Eastern countries, and the American Muslims fear for the safety of their family if they come out publicly and denounce Bin Laden and other Muslim extremists.

I heard that theory from Bill O'Reilly on his radio program, who firmly believes it to be true.

 

Revealed: US dirty tricks to win vote on Iraq war

Secret document details American plan to bug phones and emails of key Security Council members

Martin Bright, Ed Vulliamy in New York and Peter Beaumont
Sunday March 2, 2003
The Observer

The United States is conducting a secret 'dirty tricks' campaign against UN Security Council delegations in New York as part of its battle to win votes in favour of war against Iraq.

Details of the aggressive surveillance operation, which involves interception of the home and office telephones and the emails of UN delegates in New York, are revealed in a document leaked to The Observer.

http://observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,905936,00.html


GCHQ arrest over Observer spying report

Martin Bright, home affairs editor
Sunday March 9, 2003
The Observer

An employee at the top-secret Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has been arrested following revelations in The Observer last weekend about an American 'dirty tricks' surveillance operation to win votes at the United Nations in favour of a tough new resolution on Iraq.

Gloucestershire police confirmed last night that a 28-year-old woman was arrested last week on suspicion of contravening the Official Secrets Act. The woman, from the Cheltenham area, has been released on police bail pending further inquiries. More arrests are expected.

http://observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,910648,00.html


UN launches inquiry into American spying

Martin Bright, Ed Vulliamy in New York and Peter Beaumont
Sunday March 9, 2003
The Observer

The United Nations has begun a top-level investigation into the bugging of its delegations by the United States, first revealed in The Observer last week.

http://observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,910657,00.html


The spies and the spinner

Peter Beaumont in Amman and Gaby Hinsliff examine how Alastair Campbell and intelligence staff fell out over what the public should be told about Saddam

http://observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,910756,00.html


Our spy story spelt conspiracy to some

Stephen Pritchard
Sunday March 9, 2003
The Observer

The everyday use of a piece of simple computer technology placed this newspaper at the centre of a storm last week, providing the twitchy global community of conspiracy theorists with enough material for a whole conference and prompting a record number of visits to our website.

http://observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,910453,00.html