POLL: The repercussions of a US attack on Iraq

Another pathetic article.

msfe=Wild's clone.

 

UK war dossier a sham, say experts

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,890916,00.html

Powell fails to convince Nato waverers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,890915,00.html

 

Good grief, forget msfe=Wild's clone.

Style and substance (non-existent) remarkably alike.

MSFE IS WILD!! Created a new username, didja Wild ole boy?

 

HappyBoy,

Perhaps you should read the articles, in an attempt to stimulate some synaptic activity in your brain... even a minimal amount of activity will do...

yeeeeehaaaaaaaaa....

Let's smoke em out and give em justice

Candle

 

And another task for the IQ deficient participants... perhaps you should also read Josh_B's article and attempt some kind of response, if this is not beyond your intellectual capabilities...

yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa...

God Bless America and the Israeli-passport holders of our American war policy team...

 

Getting back to the thrust of my thread, here's something courtesy of CNN, which directly pertains to the reason why I started the thread...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/07/threat.level/index.html

Y'all better start agreeing with the government's terrorist threat assessment... they are now saying what I have believed all along... yeeeehaaaaa

 

OPEN LETTER TO THE FRENCH PEOPLE FROM SENATOR JOE LIEBERMAN TO THE
PEOPLE OF FRANCE - IN REMEMBRANCE

Liberty, Equality, Fraternity!

Does the French nation recall that slogan?
>>>>
The current French tolerance of and indifference to the wave of attacks
upon French Jews speaks clearly of the decline of the French national
character.
>>>>
The French have forgotten! Two hundred and some odd years ago the
suffering French populace erupted in revolution against tyranny. They
cried for and fought for liberty, fraternity, equality for all in every
aspect of French society.
>>>>
The French have forgotten! But I remember! I still have in my mind
the heartbreaking image of the Parisian gentleman from whose eyes the
tears fell copiously as he watched the Nazi troops marching
triumphantly into Paris. The face of that Frenchman still lives in my
mind sixty years later. It is the same as the faces of so many French
Jews today.
>>>>
The French have forgotten! But I remember! I remember the ecstasy,
the flowers, the kisses with which the French people greeted their
American and British liberators from Nazi terror.
>>>>
The French have forgotten! - They have forgotten the dehumanizing
result of terror upon them- selves. - They have forgotten the shame of
Vichy France. - Those who watch with indifference the attacks upon
their neighbors sink into degeneracy themselves.
>>>>
The French have forgotten brotherhood and love of others than
themselves. - They have forgotten equal justice. - They have
forgotten that a nation without strength of morality and character is a
nation already in the lower depths of degradation.
>>>>
So, just as the Swiss were part of the Nazi problem sixty years ago,
the French are part of the problem of world terrorism today. - As the
French casually watch their Jewish citizens attacked let them remember
how they, the French, acquiesced in cowardice at the rape of
Czechoslovakia by the Nazis in 1938, only to suffer under the Nazi heel
so soon after.
>>>>
My contempt for present day France is accompanied by great regret. We
gave the lives of American boys to save them once. - They have
forgotten. However, we Americans have not forgotten. - All Americans
with integrity of character must boycott France. I hope large numbers
of you will join me in this.
>>>>
.
>>>>
Joe Lieberman

 

Hear, hear

freealways

 

I've read that before and it was acknowledged to be an internet hoax. Everything in it is true, though!

Let's do our patriotic duty and forward a copy to a frog eater today!

 

This is really something -- an American newspaper actively supporting a violation of the First Amendment.

Would be surprising if even the most rabid of the armchair jackboots here could agree with this... or maybe not?

(The Orwellian theme of the last line is brilliant -- "Freedom is Slavery," right?)
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THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2003
Comfort and the Protesters

- Mayor Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Kelly are doing the people of New York and the people of Iraq a great service by delaying and obstructing the anti-war protest planned for February 15. The longer they delay in granting the protesters a permit, the less time the organizers have to get their turnout organized, and the smaller the crowd is likely to be. And we wouldn’t want to overstate the matter, but, at some level, the smaller the crowd, the more likely that President Bush will proceed with his plans to liberate Iraq. And the more likely, in that case, that the Iraqi people will be freed and the citizens of New York will be rescued from the threat of an Iraqi-aided terrorist attack.

In a federal court action filed yesterday, the New York Civil Liberties Union, representing the anti-war protesters, cites the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The court action seeks a court injunction that would allow the protesters to march down First Avenue near the United Nations. “A central part of the February 15 event is to convey a message to the United Nations about opposition to any war against Iraq,” the complaint filed yesterday says. But the right of peaceable assembly in the Constitution refers to the right “to petition the government for a redress of grievances.” The protesters would be on stronger ground if they wanted to convey a message to the U.S. Mission to the United Nations — if, in other words, if they were petitioning the government, not the U.N.

The protesters probably do have a claim under the right to free speech. Never mind that it’s not the speech that the city is objecting to — it’s the marching in the streets, blocking traffic, and requiring massive police protection.

So long as the protesters are invoking the Constitution, they might have a look at Article III. That says, “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.”

There can be no question at this point that Saddam Hussein is an enemy of America. Iraq was the only Arab-Muslim country that did not condemn the September 11 attacks against the United States. A commentary of the official Iraqi station on September 11 stated that America was “…reaping the fruits of [its] crimes against humanity.” A government employee in Iraq reacted to the loss this month of the space shuttle Columbia by telling Reuters, “God is avenging us.”

And there is no reason to doubt that the “anti-war” protesters — we prefer to call them protesters against freeing Iraq — are giving, at the very least, comfort to Saddam Hussein. In a television interview aired this week, Saddam said, “First of all we admire the development of the peace movement around the world in the last few years. We pray to God to empower all those working against war and for the cause of peace and security based on just peace for all.” After the last big anti-war protest, the one in Washington last month, Saddam hailed the anti-war protests as proof that Americans back Iraq rather than President Bush. “They are supporting you because they know that evildoers target Iraq to silence and dissenting voice to their evil and destructive policies,” Saddam told senior officers, including his son Qusay, commander of the Republican Guard.

So the New York City police could do worse, in the end, than to allow the protest and send two witnesses along for each participant, with an eye toward preserving at least the possibility of an eventual treason prosecution. Thus fully respecting not just some, but all of the constitutional principles at stake.

To those concerned about civil liberties, we’d cite the pragmatic argument made last night by, of all people, the New York Times’s three-time Pulitzer-Prize winning foreign affairs columnist, Thos. Friedman. “I believe we are one more 9/11 away from the end of the open society,” Mr. Friedman told an American Jewish Committee dinner honoring the chief executive of the New York Times Company, Russell Lewis. His point was that if terrorists strike again at America and kill large numbers of Americans, the pressure to curb civil liberties and civil rights will be “enormous and unstoppable.” What we took from that was that the more successful the protesters are in making their case in New York, the less chance they’ll have the precious constitutional freedom to protest here the next time around.

http://www.nysun.com/sunarticle.asp?artID=529