POLL: The first debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by lindq, Sep 27, 2016.

Who was better at furthering their cause in the first Presidential debate?

Poll closed Oct 4, 2016.
  1. Clinton

    22 vote(s)
    61.1%
  2. Trump

    14 vote(s)
    38.9%
  1. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    Too many assertions and accusations are slung both ways in this whole election campaign, more than ever before. It is hilarious that certain people lower their standards and expectations when it comes to what they demand in terms of debating standards. The bar was set incredibly low for Trump, while Clinton was held to a much higher standard. Question now is what standard do people apply to the presidency in general.

    Both candidates are pathological liars, Trump imho more so than Clinton, but Clinton would have zero chance against any other more truthful candidate if there was any. I think most people are clear about the choice they have: a) a liar in power, someone with unhinged temperament, a lose cannon, however, someone who really may shake up things (even if its just for the rich), or b) more of the same, not much change, but at least a true stateswoman, someone who does not embarrass the United States around the world. Those are the choices. Some people want a shake up, and most of those are the ones who have little or nothing to lose anyway. The others prefer an experienced and more intelligent leader at the expense of little to no change from the status quo.

     
    #51     Sep 29, 2016
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  2. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    ....yes the same language that Duterte, current leader of the Philippines, uses. Trump would pull out his middle finger, call every other statesman a motherfuxxer, call stateswomen a slob. The result is this: A country that isolates itself from the rest of the world. The Philippines now withdraws from old but proven treaties. It moves away from the US and towards China and Russia. That China will be number 1 in the world in most everything soon or in the foreseeable future is not a possibility but a certainty. How the US will navigate and deal with it is a question for US voters to decide. The UK had to undergo the same transition process from a global power to a mere participant. The same will happen to the US, and that is not a bad thing at all. Leading the world costs a lot of money, you can't be number one and lead but not be willing to pay the price it costs to be number one. Gotta make a choice.

     
    #52     Sep 29, 2016
  3. This "stateswoman" lied through her teeth to the Benghazi parents, then went on TV and said they were lying.

    She orchestrated intimidation campaigns against women who had been victims of her husband's sexual predation, knowing they were telling the truth.

    She concocted an insecure email system so she could shield her State Department pay for play scheme from public view, then ran a classic Clinton coverup op. The Obama FBI and Justice Department did their part by conducting a faux investigation and preemptively immunizing all potential defendants.
     
    #53     Sep 29, 2016
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  4. At least you have given us a view of the ridiculous poppycock that underlies you nonsensical posts.

    Thanx
     
    #54     Sep 29, 2016
  5. Seems anyone with half a brain saw it as the opposite of what you describe.
     
    #55     Sep 29, 2016
  6. jem

    jem

    Do you all realize the Obama / Clinton is giving the rights to the internet away?
    So they can stop those who oppose the policies the elites create. Do you all ever think the major media would become so one sided. If it was not for the internet there would be only Pravda and slightly anti Pravda fox... which will become more establishment with their new owners.

    And the establishment Rs in congress are so corrupt they are supporting it?
    Do you realize what this means about free speech and freedom to be different and express yourselves that way?

    There is not one person voting in a America who should vote for any person who does not support our right to free expression.

    What is wrong with you lefties. You realize once they are done taking the rights away from those who love freedom... they are going to screw you so hard you heads will spin. People in control are not going to want drones with individual traits. They are going to want perfect drones.

    Voting for more of the same is voting for the type of freedom we see in Saudi Arabia or the old eastern block.

    Wake the hell up. They are giving the internet away to stop freedom of expression.

    Can't you read the writing on the walls.

    This site will be shut down or one sided. Everyone will be stupid. Think... challenge authority.
     
    #56     Sep 29, 2016
  7. achilles28

    achilles28

    The war monger button doesn't stick on trump

    amazing people defend Hillary. She intends to go to war with Russia by shooting Down their planes.
     
    #57     Sep 29, 2016
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    She did not say that, Ann.
     
    #58     Sep 29, 2016
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Trump said we should overthrow Gaddafi ( 1:45 in the video) and he supported pulling out if Iraq when Bush was still president.




    And he supported pulling out if Iraq when Bush was still president.




     
    #59     Sep 29, 2016
  10. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    Is she also responsible for 9/11?

     
    #60     Sep 29, 2016