Poll: I trade only properly optimised systems

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by OddTrader, Nov 29, 2006.

Trading with properly optimised systems?

  1. Yes; That's the best way for consistent profits.

    16 vote(s)
    42.1%
  2. No; Don't even think about it, as you must be kidding.

    14 vote(s)
    36.8%
  3. Probably; Looks a pretty good and practical idea.

    3 vote(s)
    7.9%
  4. Unsure; What are you talking about?

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%
  1. No doubt a very good Theory indeed! :D
     
    #11     Nov 29, 2006
  2. Mr B

    Mr B

    I assume that properly optimised means backtested many times with the variables subtly altered, and on a 3d chart it gave a smooth profit curve regardless of variables.

    I know how to optimise but I don't (lazy).
     
    #12     Nov 29, 2006
  3. Do you mean SCT?

     
    #13     Nov 29, 2006
  4. That is correct.
     
    #14     Nov 29, 2006
  5. By "properly optimised" do you mean optimization to ensure that the parameters surrounding the ones you're trading are just about as profitable?

     
    #15     Nov 29, 2006
  6. How about smooth profit curve regardless of market variations? :D
     
    #16     Nov 29, 2006
  7. Perhaps that should be the minimum requirement for all systems, imo. :p
     
    #17     Nov 29, 2006
  8. taowave

    taowave

    Dan,would you be kind enough to share your thoughts on foward testing???

    Does it make a significant difference if one foward tests or simply adds the "foward" test data into the initial backtest??

    I have always wondered about the virtues of foward testing

    Thanks in advance
     
    #18     Dec 28, 2006
  9. I most definitely test for parameter stability. That's the primary purpose of "optimization", imo.

    How do you otherwise know if you're just chosen a lucky set of parameters that happened to look good in a particular backtest?

    Test and compare to realtime (forward test). The only way to stay "alive" with systems.
     
    #19     Dec 28, 2006
  10. All my systems are highly optimized to find the "sweet spot" for parameters. You can do this without curve fitting though, and you must do this without curve fitting. Its all about system robustness. If the system behavior is erratic when you wiggle parameters, then its not a good system. All my systems make money in all markets even when using a wide set of parameters. In other words, they are robust enough to handle quite a large change in the market.
     
    #20     Dec 28, 2006