POLL! How Much Do You Pay Per Contract

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Pabst, Oct 28, 2005.

How Much Are People Paying?

Poll closed Nov 13, 2005.
  1. Over $6.00 per Round turn

    9 vote(s)
    7.6%
  2. A bit over 5 Bucks

    15 vote(s)
    12.6%
  3. I'm at IB's Unbundled/Bundled Rate

    58 vote(s)
    48.7%
  4. Cheap. Under $4.00

    24 vote(s)
    20.2%
  5. Prop/Member rates of a buck or under

    13 vote(s)
    10.9%
  1. I'm trading own-account at Refco's london office for $1.10 round turn on CME instruments, non-member rate.
     
    #21     Oct 30, 2005
  2. How do you get it? Thats awfully cheap for a non-member... Whats the deal.. your account size, the volume that you do?
     
    #22     Oct 30, 2005
  3. that rate is for 25,000RT though admittedly I do most of my volume on LIFFE futures at the moment, Refco dont discriminate between exchange and as long as my total volume is high enough I get the lowest rate.

    it basically breaks down to (per side):

    0.34c exchange fee
    0.10c globex fee
    0.02c NFA fee
    0.09c Refco clearing fee

    Presumably Refco are on the CME's European Incentive Scheme rate system, or have some kind of corporate membership. If I were to get my own CME membership then obviously the fee's would be lower.

    total 0.55c per side - though Refco's highest rate for less than 5,000 RT is only 0.68c per side / $1.36 RT, not exactly expensive
     
    #23     Oct 30, 2005
  4. big ed73

    big ed73

    Is any one hear a member of the CME?

    How difficult is it to lease a membership? It looks like the saving are huge.
     
    #24     Oct 30, 2005
  5. I'm a member of both the CME and CBOT. The feasibility of leasing/buying a seat or not is completely dependent on your trading plans and how much volume you do per month. If you have enough money to buy a seat at the CME, then you should put up enough money to trade through an FCM at professional rates with a progressive cap. You can use treasuries in most places as collateral, if you like. You will need at least $25k.

    Good luck.
     
    #25     Oct 30, 2005
  6. saico

    saico

    Global Futures offers both, Strategy Runner as well as Ninja.
    You can also trade with Ninja at IB, at some Brokers who offer Pats and MB Trading...

    Saico
     
    #26     Oct 30, 2005
  7. big ed73

    big ed73

    thanks
     
    #27     Oct 31, 2005
  8. Thanks FT71...informative and useful info as usual.

    NihabaAshi
     
    #28     Oct 31, 2005
  9. big ed73

    big ed73


    What do you mean by progressive cap?
     
    #29     Oct 31, 2005
  10. This means that as you play more and more commission, your rate goes down because the clearing firm secures it minimum profit and then gives you discounts from there.

    An example would be:

    $1.00 per turn up to $6000 in commission paid

    $.80/RT to $10000

    $.50/RT to $14000

    $0.10/RT above $16,000 in commission paid per year

    Now remember that I'm talking about commissions only; not exchange and clearing fees or NFA. The exchange fee is determined by your membership level and your clearing firm can't do anything about that.

    Good luck.
     
    #30     Oct 31, 2005