POLL! How Much Do You Pay Per Contract

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Pabst, Oct 28, 2005.

How Much Are People Paying?

Poll closed Nov 13, 2005.
  1. Over $6.00 per Round turn

    9 vote(s)
    7.6%
  2. A bit over 5 Bucks

    15 vote(s)
    12.6%
  3. I'm at IB's Unbundled/Bundled Rate

    58 vote(s)
    48.7%
  4. Cheap. Under $4.00

    24 vote(s)
    20.2%
  5. Prop/Member rates of a buck or under

    13 vote(s)
    10.9%
  1. If under capitalized, try Lions Futures an Introducing Broker for Transact datafeed, $500 per contract, $4.75 per RT if you trade over 200 per month. Add $50-199 if you want TradeMaven platform/charts.

    Go straight through TransAct for RT under $4 (3.71 last I heard) if you average 18 RT per day.
     
    #11     Oct 29, 2005
  2. big ed73

    big ed73

    does ninja trader have charts?
     
    #12     Oct 29, 2005
  3. big ed73

    big ed73

    what firms offer strategy runner
     
    #13     Oct 29, 2005

  4. No, not unless it's changed lately.
     
    #14     Oct 30, 2005
  5. Transact Futures $3.42/RT
     
    #15     Oct 30, 2005
  6. big ed73

    big ed73

    what firms offer ninja trader?
     
    #16     Oct 30, 2005
  7. I trade with Transact Futures, and I am really satisfied with the way they handle my account.

    Of course, I have accounts at couple of other places too, but I am not as satified with them.
     
    #17     Oct 30, 2005
  8. Whats IB charging y'all for the "IB bundled/unbundled" rates?
     
    #18     Oct 30, 2005
  9. frugi

    frugi

    Transact / IB fee comparison for YM traders:

    IB Commissions

    Bundled

    $2.13 per side / $4.26 round trip

    Unbundled

    Execution
    <=300 $0.90
    301-1000 $0.70
    1001-10000 $0.45

    Clearing
    <=1000 $0.30
    1001-10000 $0.20

    Carrying $0 unless holding overnight (then $0.10)

    CBOT non-member fees (members = $0.10 per side with no reg fee)

    Exchange
    $0.90

    Regulatory NFA
    $0.02

    Totals

    <=300 $2.12 / $4.24 round trip
    301-1000 $1.92 / $3.84
    1001>10000 $1.57 / $3.14

    So on 1000 round trips = ($4.24 x 300) + ($3.84 x 700) = $3.96 average
    On 2000 round trips = $3960 + ($3.14 x 1000) = $3.55 average
    On 5000 round trips = $3960 + ($3.14 x 4000) = $3.304 average

    Transact Futures

    Non member: $2.94 r/t
    ($1.10 execution / $1.80 exchange / $0.04 NFA reg)

    +$50 Trademaven basic (optional)

    So on 1000 round trips = $2940+$50 = $2.99 average
    On 2000 round trips = $5880 + $50 = $2.965 average

    Member (leased seat): $1.60 r/t
    ($1.10 execution / $0.10 exchange / $0.10 contracts cleared / no reg / $0.30 delegate fee)

    + $160 a month IDEM lease
    + $50 Trademaven front end

    So on 1000 round trips (50 per day) = $1600 + $160 +$50 = $1.81 average
    On 2000 round trips = $3200 + $160 + $50 = $1.705 average

    Minimum monthly 364 r/t

    Member (bought seat): $1.30 r/t
    ($1.10 execution / $0.10 exchange / $0.10 contracts cleared / no reg / no delegate)

    + $50 Trademaven basic (optional)

    So on 1000 round trips = $1300 + $50 = $1.35 average
    On 2000 round trips = $2600 + $50 = $1.325 average

    Seat (B-4 IDEM) current bid/offer is $13,000 - $15,000
    There is also a $1000-$1500 set up fee for leasing or buying.
     
    #19     Oct 30, 2005
  10. JackR

    JackR

    Mini Russell ER2 Example

    Bundled is $4.80 R/T.

    Unbundled is a sliding scale. Includes all fees.

    Do 500 R/Ts (1000 total contracts) and it's $4.44 R/T.

    Do 1,000 R/Ts (2000 Total) and it's $4.03.

    Do 2,500 R/Ts (5000 Total) and it's $3.784.

    Do 5,000 R/Ts (10K Total) and it's $3.70.

    Do 10,000 R/Ts (20K Total) and it's $3.461.

    Do 20,000 R/Ts (40K Total) and it's $3.1405.


    Assumes no carryover trades.

    There are adjustments if you have exchange memberships, etc. None are assumed above.

    You'd have to work out exactly what your cost would be based on your volume. I picked some round numbers for my examples. It continues to improve as you increase quantity.

    Trader Workstation Included at no charge. Trade 3 contracts and there are no fees for real-time datafeed.

    Jack
     
    #20     Oct 30, 2005