POLL: Has ET's P&R forum effectively become FOX's Internet bitch?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gabfly1, Jan 14, 2010.

Has ET's P&R forum effectively become FOX's Internet bitch?

  1. Yes

    13 vote(s)
    44.8%
  2. No

    16 vote(s)
    55.2%
  1. jem

    jem

    when you see here choke off 10s of thousands of California's farmers in exchange for her pet save the fish projects -- can you come to any other conclusion?
     
    #21     Jan 14, 2010
  2. Any link or reference on that. I know it's happening ...Why it's happening I don't know. But you apparently do. Please enlighten Por Favor.

     
    #22     Jan 14, 2010
  3. reg

    reg

    I partially agree with you. His posts aren't at all smart, but rather funny in a queer sort of way. Here's an example when he was posting under a different name:

     
    #23     Jan 14, 2010
  4. jem

    jem

    From Senator De Mints website. -- Pelosi is referenced in the middle. She blocked the identical amendment offered by Rep. Nunes.

    Note the loss of 40000 jobs and the destruction hundreds of thousands of acres.

    Pelosi is destroying farmers from her on state over the dealta smelt.


    September 22, 2009 - WASHINGTON, D.C - Today, U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina), chairman of the Senate Steering Committee, proposed an amendment to the FY2010 Interior Appropriations Act restricting funds for one year from being used to cut off water to California’s Central Valley. Environmentalists have used the Endangered Species Act (ESA) to stem the flow of water to the region's farming community, which produces 13% of the U.S. food supply and over half of the nation’s fruit and vegetables in order to protect a 3-inch fish called the Delta Smelt.

    “What started out as a local water problem in California is quickly developing into a food problem for the nation,” said Senator DeMint. “This region is vital to our nation's food supply; it produces most of our fruits and vegetables. If we don’t address this problem now, not only will thousands of people remain out of work in California, but everyone in the country will pay higher food prices.”

    “Congress has faced similar problems with the Endangered Species Act before, and each time we intervened to help our people. We must be good stewards of the environment, but our government's priority must be the health and welfare of our people. We cannot allow our food supply and our economy to be held hostage by extreme environmentalists.”

    In December 2008, the United States Fish and Wildlife Service issued a Biological Opinion that regulated and reduced water flowing into the San Joaquin Valley for the protection of Delta smelt. In June 2009, the National Marine Fisheries Service issued a Biological Opinion on the Long-Term operations of the Central Valley Project and further classified salmon, steelhead, green sturgeon and killer whales endangered by release of water in the San Joaquin Valley.

    The DeMint amendment would prevent Interior Secretary Ken Salazar from using any taxpayer funds over the next year to restrict water to the region due to the two biological opinions. If the two biological opinions are not suspended, the region will continue to be starved of water, causing even greater job loss and higher food prices. The amendment is identical to an amendment written by U.S. Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) that was blocked by Speaker Nancy Pelosi earlier this year. As recently as 2003, the Senate voted unanimously for a two-year waiver of the Endangered Species Act to stop a similar cut-off of water in New Mexico.

    “Unlike most of the big government solutions coming out of Washington that cost taxpayers billions, this amendment doesn’t cost a single penny,” said DeMint. “We can turn the water on so thousands of Central Valley farmers can get back to work without creating another federal program or bailing out another industry.”

    A revised University of California-Davis study recently found that up to 40,000 San Joaquin Valley jobs will be lost by the end of 2009 and 500,000 acres of productive farm land will be fallowed because of water rationing -- a direct result of these Biological Opinions. The same study also concluded that Central Valley could lose $1.6 billion to $2.2 billion as a result of this unnecessary drought. The City of Mendota, which recently had to turn away unemployed farm families from food lines, is currently experiencing an unemployment rate of 40 percent. There are nearby communities experiencing higher levels of unemployment as well.

    Most of California’s crops come from the Central Valley region, and the state as a whole produces the following percentages of the U.S. food supply: Artichokes 19%, Asparagus 55%, Broccoli 93%; Cabbage 22%; Carrots 89%; Celery 94%; Garlic 86%; Lettuce 78%; Cantaloupe 54%; Honeydew 73%; Onions 27%; Bell Peppers 47%; Spinach 18%; Tomatoes 94%; Almond 99%; Apricots 95%; Avocados 84%; Strawberries 90%; Dates 82%; Figs 98%; Grapes 88%; Kiwi 97%; Lemons 89%; Nectarines 93%; Olives 100%; Peaches 76%; Pistachios 96%; Plums 93%; Walnuts 99%; Honey 18%; Milk and cream 21%. (Source: California Foundation for Agriculture in the Classroom)

    “What is happening in California is an example of what could happen across the country if we don’t reform the Endangered Species Act,” said Senator DeMint. “Environmentalists could use this statute to bring great harm to our economy and to American families working to make ends meet. In fact, this law is being used in South Carolina to restrict maritime traffic flow into the Port of Charleston in order to protect the Right Whale. My amendment gives the Senate a chance to call a time-out on the California water problem and begin to bring some balance back to environmental laws."
     
    #24     Jan 14, 2010
  5. Are you saying he is a queer Reg? Poor Gabfly, he doesn't get a lot of love here!
     
    #25     Jan 15, 2010
  6. Well, you know him better than I do, so I'll just have to take your word for it.
     
    #26     Jan 18, 2010