POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by billpritjr, Nov 14, 2005.

POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

  1. Single MA

    39 vote(s)
    22.9%
  2. Dual MA crossover

    50 vote(s)
    29.4%
  3. Trendline

    61 vote(s)
    35.9%
  4. N-day breakout

    20 vote(s)
    11.8%
  1. Emini S&P Trend

    Jim, here is the Swing Trend Chart for the S&P you wanted me to post.
     
    #121     Nov 17, 2005


  2. you mention earlier---- " i use continuous feed" what in the world does this mean?? surely not what i think..... right??

    surfer:eek: :confused:
     
    #122     Nov 17, 2005
  3. hans37

    hans37


    Just because information can be graphed to look as if there is a trend (or pattern) does NOT in fact make it true.

    try http://www.agribiz.com/merchdiz/cointoss/cointoss.html a few times .


    Human neurophysiology is designed to see patterns and does so even if viewing randomness .
     
    #123     Nov 17, 2005
  4. I answer all questions, to the best of my ability. The key scattering comment was made as an analogy. All of the information is here in ET but it takes a resourceful individual to put them together. I have emails from a bunch of traders that have benefited from the information listed throughout. Put forth a little effort on your own and all of the information is here to fully figure out what I do. Most won't do that though. Too hard. I didn't give any of my kids cars when they turned 16 . . . they worked for it. Anything worth while is worth the effort.

    But some traders would prefer to sit in comfy chairs and throw stones. Like I said earlier, If they can't understand it, then it is impossible because it irritates them that someone MIGHT know something they don't but are too lazy to do look for it themselves. Oh, well.

    I will still answer questions of those that want my answers so they can verify the information for themselves. Life goes on and then we trade.
     
    #124     Nov 17, 2005
  5. Your arrogance overwhelms. What makes you think that I do not have a method that I am comfortable with and that serves me well? You are essentially concluding that anyone who does not take the time to learn YOUR method is lazy. How wonderful it must be to reside at the center of the universe.

    Take note. My very first post to you was my taking exception to your use of the term "impossible" in connection with market activity. You claimed that it was "impossible" for markets to go immediately against your entries. When people speak in such absolutes about the market, I tend to disagree...absolutely. I do so as a matter of course. It is not personal. Anyone who has traded the markets for any length of time can recognize the inanity of your statement. For all I know, you may be an outstanding trader. However, your "impossible" reference is full of shit, pure and simple. Please do not read any more into my comments.
     
    #125     Nov 17, 2005
  6. If you have a method you are comfortable with, fantastic. I wish you all the great trading the Market has to offer you. I think trading is a great way to make a living and should be a fun place to meet some really interesting people. There are a boat load of people out there with their own personal edges that I have no clue about but don't condemn them. We discuss what they do and I respect what they do, walk away and keep my opinions to myself. "If it works for them . . . cool, I don't have to do that." I don't make fun of Fib Traders, Gann Traders, Elliott Traders, Moon Phase Traders, Market Profile Traders, Time & Price Traders or any other flavor of the month. They do what they do and God love every one.

    If you told me that your Method was based on some research you had done regarding something I was totally unfamiliar with I would ask questions to better understand it, I wouldn't slam it and ridicule it just because I was unfamiliar with it. If that is arrogance you really have a skewed form of reality.

    I said it is lazy to dismiss or condemn anything you don't understand without verifying it first and that includes what I do. That applies to anything in life. Again that isn't arrogance that is simple common sense.

    You have absolutely no clue of WHAT absolutes I'm talking about but just because you don't understand them, can't and won't ask questions to try to figure them out, your off the cuff answer is . . . it is impossible. Where is the arrogance in that? I could care less whether you expend the effort to validate what I do but until you do, you have no right to say it doesn't work. Just say, it sounds strange even ridiculous but anything is possible under the right conditions and walk away. I respect indifference, I don't respect chosen ignorance.

    And please stop taking my statements out of context and skewing them to justify your directed ridicule of something you do not comprehend or understand.
     
    #126     Nov 17, 2005
  7. VictorS

    VictorS

    Looking back, that makes it a lot easier. It's those oscillations in between getting me.:cool: Primes I find are easy to read.
     
    #127     Nov 17, 2005
  8. VictorS

    VictorS

    He really did give it away here at ET.
     
    #128     Nov 17, 2005
  9. Aye right, so I guess those $4000 courses offered by Mr Dow/Logic are no longer necessary.

    Which, BTW, Mr Dow is well within his rights to provide, if people are willing to shell out that sort of cash - and the standard CFTC disclaimers are included with all course materials.

    $Ka-Ching$
     
    #129     Nov 18, 2005
  10. Ok,
    we're looking at an eqivolume chart. So the light blue lines presumably are open/close marking the days go by.

    The oscillator is your proprietary ergodic one, if I understood correctly. I assume it's not normalized to a fixed scale, it might be logarithmic though, I can't tell.
    Anyway it shouldn't differ too much from any other non-normalized-scale oscillator that is fed with price/volume instead of price/time.

    That's quite simple and quite beautiful so far.
    I've never used MultiCharts ever. Equivolume charts are interesting I think, would be a possible deal breaker.


    Does anybody know, if there is any other software that can do it?

    By the way I respect Charlie for laying out his stuff. I would not spell out my theories so openly ever.


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    Act always so as to increase the number of choices. - Heinz von Foerster -
     
    #130     Nov 18, 2005