I know most of the vocal and ardent vouching for what a helluvaguy Pabst is are not referencing me, but let me just tell you bandwagon folks a little something anyways. Pabst is free to believe whatever he wants, and to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants (well, I guess neither he nor any of us can yell 'fire' in a crowded theater or threaten to assassinate the President - though I think he's come close). Pabst is not free, like the rest of us, to not deal with the consequences of posting some of the most vitriolic and hateful comments about whole classes of people, especially that he's turned his life into a fishbowl by running for congress, talking about it here, starting some sort of trading company, talking about it here, in both cases essentially stepping out from the anonymity that many people on forums typically choose to have, putting a name and face with his screen name, and then escaping criticism and the consequences that flow from doing so because he begins to feel uncomfortable. Who else here has referred to entire classes of people as kikes, niggers or spics, and then gone on to step forward and give your name, the name of the place where you work, highlighted the fact that you've run for national political office in modern day America, initially gotten upset when called out on it (I can point to the very thread where Kurt was first called out), and then, when it's absolutely clear that the cat's out of the bag, tried to adopt a pathetic pretense of being proud of such behavior? I'm not the one to slur Jews as Kikes. Pabst did. I'm not the one to slur blacks as Niggers. Pabst did. I'm not the one to slur hispanics as spics. Pabst did. If you're in agreement with Pabst, you're just a sad, dumb motherfucker. But maybe you're a little (or a lot) more discrete in spewing your venom while remaining anonymous. But please, for the love of G_d, quit fucking bitching about Pabst being attacked for the extremely hateful and venemous slurs he has made time and time again about people he doesn't even know. He's obstensibly an adult, and can defend himself for the exact comments he made. I asked a while back if Kurt openly lets clients, constituents and others he deals with in real life know that he uses terms such as kike, nigger and spic (among others). There was a deafening silence. If you're going to be a hater, and you're going to utter such garbage, be prepared to be forced to deal with the consequences of what you've not only said once, twice or several times, but that which you've said many times, over the course of years, on a public forum. If you didn't want such disgusting comments to be attributable to you, oh well. No one forced you to make such statements. If you have run for national office striving to be an elected official in the very Congress of the United States of America, and you have this kind of baggage associated with your very name, you'd probably be wise to hang up that goal. I doubt things will turn out well for you. If you deal with the public, and intend to gain pecuniary benefits in your course of business with people who may be Jewish, black or Hispanic, you're just a two-faced coward to be able to shake the hands of an individual you've slurred, while smiling and exhanging pleasantries with them, because of the expectancy of a potential monetary benefit, and you fail to tell them how you really feel about them, you're a spineless coward. So, I say unto all the whiners IN THIS THREAD, rushing to the defense of Pabst because he may possess the slightest skill in the world of trading, you are obtuse and dimwitted, because you have missed the entire point. This isn't about Pabst's benevolence in the realm of helping newbies learn how to trade or offering other such kind of assistance. This is about Kurt's desire to want what's not possible; to divide his persona into two, with one individual being a screen name of Pabst on ET, spewing nothing but hate and venom, while desiring anonymity, and with Kurt desiring to be yet another real life individual with the same, real name, sheltered from the very same comments and racial slurs that Pabst engaged and engages in on a constant basis. I, for one, can absolutely guarantee anyone here that Kurt fails to divulge these obviously deep and heartfelt prejudices to those he meets on a daily basis in real life, whether it was when he was running and campaigning for Congress, or in running the company that he does now. So, the one question anyone should feel more than free to answer is why is that the case? I can only think of one answer. Kurt's afraid to show his true colors in real life. If you're going to have such deeply held convictions, why not follow through on them in real life? It's not against the law for a private citizen to use racial epithets and venomous language in most contexts. Kurt apparently lives in Chicago and Florida, from what he has volunteered. I know there are quite a few Jews, blacks and hispanics in both states, and probably in the immediate areas near where Kurt lives and works. The day Kurt hangs out a sign on the front door of his office saying 'we don't deal with Kikes, Niggers or Spics,' along with any other entire classes of people he apparently harbors such hatred for, he'll be truly liberated, and not torn between being Pabst and being Kurt, anymore. Free at last.
Whatever sparkles your panties sunshine. Can you answer my first question, though? In case you forgot: What does me respecting his integrity have anything to do with subscribing to his service? I'm talking to ZZzzz aren't I....
Pabst(Pesci) vs BuyLow(Deniro) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD44ouab5pc substitute the word casino for 'elitetrader forum'
Try again asswipe. I hide behind nothing. Pabst SHOWED UP AT THIS PRESS CONFERENCE and freaked them boyzz out...... IL GROUPS TO PROTEST CANDIDATE'S ISLAMOPHOBIC REMARKS September 30, 2004 Religious and minority groups oppose 'hate-filled' rhetoric (CHICAGO, IL, 9/30/04) - On Friday, October 1, 2004, representatives of Chicago-area interfaith, Latino, Asian, and immigrant organizations will hold a news conference at the Downtown Islamic Center to protest what the groups say is "hate-filled" rhetoric about Muslims by Illinois Republican congressional candidate Kurt Eckhardt. Media reports quote Eckhardt as saying he distrusted Islam "for years" and supports planting human monitors in mosques to track the activity of those practicing the religion there. Eckhardt added that acts of terror and violence are not "aberrational behavior" by violent extremists, but are part of the general culture of Islam. SEE: "Muslims Condemn Candidate's Comments" http://www.dailyherald.com/search/main_story.asp?intid=3825838 WHAT: News Conference Protesting Islamophobic Remarks by Kurt Eckhardt WHEN: Friday, October 1, 2004, 10:30 a.m. WHERE: Downtown Islamic Center, 231 S. State Street, 4th Floor, Chicago, IL "As reported, these disturbing remarks reflect a lack of understanding about Islam and Muslims," said CAIR-Chicago Executive Director Yaser Tabbara. "Such inflammatory comments create unnecessary divisions among Americans." CAIR, America's largest Islamic civil liberties group, is headquartered in Washington, D.C., and has 29 regional offices and chapters nationwide and in Canada. ------------------------------------------
Show some integrity? Ha ha you know I have considered doing the 2 k buy in I'm not sure yet. But I don't think you can extrapolate that I don't have integrity from my "defense" of Pabst. IT wasn't even a defense, merely just saying that I personally don't think he's a huckster. In my dealings with him I've found him to be cordial and respectful. His honesty was one thing that really stuck out. ByLo, That was a very well written statement. Although my response to it will be short. Live now quit worrying about the past, it doesn't exist anymore for ANYBODY. Enjoy life! Fretting on internet forums about what somebody has done and said truly is moot point. I hope everybody here has a great weekend.
Hey, I am curious: Let's say Thunderdog sends 10K to invest, would you take it? (assuming you know it is him)
Nothing, however I do applaud you on your deft microscopy. Follow the string. Pabst offers a service and endorses himself as a very capable trader. You, presumably want to make as much money as you reasonably can. You respect Pabst's "integrity." What, then would prevent you from investing a couple thousand, if not the full 5k, with a man of integrity who pronounces himself to be one of the few capable traders around and who's going for the fences? I could be mistaken here but, if memory serves, Pabst once boasted about being a better trader than Soros or Tudor Jones. One or the other or both. Does anyone recall?
bylo,bigotry is a form of stupidity and shouldnt be held as a reason to judge a person,avoid maybe ,but you still havnt earned the right to judge,bringing so much attention to his bigotry actually promotes it,he's not alone or special in any of these veiws,he's just maligned, and admits to being part of a human condition which at best cheapens our existence and at worst can be used as a basis for genocide,we all are in some ways,a little prejudice,pabst prejudices i assume are seldom spoken of amongst his freinds ,anymore than how many sheets of toilet paper he uses,some things are best kept to yourself,if you want to keep your freinds. He comes here to vent anonomously or openly but not really to anyone's face, to get a rise out of people,like cold,if he isnt cold ,and your playing along
Where is there any reference to the racial epithets with which you so regularly and casually anoint your ET posts? I see no such colorful language here.