If you can show that peoples of the same socio-economic status but of different races have similar crime stats, while cohabiting in the same country, then the facts would speak for themselves. There are many more things that contribute to crime than mere socio-economics. I don't know what they all are. But I don't recall seeing any metrics that isolate frequency or severity of crime having as a principle function being poverty alone. Note: I'm not saying that poverty doesn't factor in. It does. But to say or infer that poverty causes crime, *implies* that crime is committed to get access to basic human needs (food, shelter, etc) which the poor would otherwise not have access to. It *implies* that the crime is justified.
Your hero Prager would dismiss that statement completely. He would say crime is not a race issue, nor a proverty issue...but a values issue. Discuss
Prager might indeed say that, Doc, but I don't think he would attribute it solely to values. Personally, I feel it has to do with a combination of many factors, including values, of course. That being said, I have read that poor education and the absence of a male parent are large factors as well. These are obviously characteristics of low income communities.
Do middle-class and wealthy African-Americans commit crimes at a higher percentage relative to their population than middle-class and wealthy white Americans?
I fully agree with you on this one. Below are some of Thunderdoggystyle's method of argument to some of his fellow posters on ET: QUOTE]Quote from Thunderdog: You're an idiot to think that someone could lie about something so easily verifiable and become president. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. [/QUOTE] QUOTE]Quote from Thunderdog: He's more intelligent than you are, he's better educated than you are, he's smarter than you are, and he is certainly not pathetic, which you are. But please continue. [/QUOTE] And these gems were just from the past three days.
Oh, reg, have you always felt this way about me? Please be assured that my posts will show as much consideration as do the posts to which I respond. Are we still special friends?
TK9, you still have some work to do in learning not to take things so personally. It will allow you much better comebacks when you rise above the fray...
1. You use obviously disparaging terms related to blacks. This stuff and the stuff on Jews is straight outta the racialist playbook. 2. You do not need to state that you have hate, it is clear in your writing. 3. You do not have nor does your family have, any wealth. If you did, you would have traveled, thus making your myopic views of the world obsolete secondary to exposure to diversity. 4. Any stats presented to refute your claims of racial superiority will be rejected by your worldview, because your worldview is what keeps you sane. Albeit marginally so.
You mean it has nothing to do with West Virginia's below average population density? The Preamble to the US Constitution references the word "tranquility". You cannot have tranquility if certain demographic groups of your society have vastly inferior living standards and have a cause for resentment towards the status quo. Race riots proved that decisively. Slavery was an expression of underlying lazyness and degeneracy of people who engaged in it. One of the major reasons why the South lost the civil war was that its industry was nonexistent and its rail network was far inferior to the north. South had a sham of an "elite". That "elite" liked to discuss "the cause" and existed like a parasite based on "king cotton". Slavery was unsustainable, unnecessary and vile as an institution, but once you freed the slaves, what were you going to do with them? You can't undo many years of injustice overnight. During Reconstruction, the south found a creative way of getting back to its dirty business. The KKK intimidated voters, and Jim Crow laws destroyed legal rights. Sharecropping destroyed any chance of economic self sufficiency. US Revolutionary war was launched on the premise of "no taxation without representation". Compared to being a second rate citizen in your own country, being beaten, lynched, denied economic opportunities etc. no taxation without representation is a bullshit excuse. Tranquility in society is not optional, any wise ruler would seek to achieve and maintain it. Ethnic problems were the bane of Austria-Hungary. During Cold War, US cultural problem were a national security issue as the soviet union would seek to exploit any black/white tension. As I said, anti semitism gives a thoroughly demented human being a chance to aritficially elevate himself above far more educated and polished individuals on the premise that "they don't get the influence of world jewry" (they being more educated and enlightened individuals). I have seen this phenomenon many times and will continue to see it because people will frequently try to distinguish themselves in something even if they have nothing.