POLL: Do you believe you can reasonably anticipate or identify a trend day?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Thunderdog, Jul 25, 2009.

Do you believe you can reasonably anticipate or identify a trend day?

  1. No

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  2. Yes, with somewhere between 60% and 75% reliability

    26 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. Yes, with better than 75% reliability

    30 vote(s)
    25.6%


  1. Haha! Very nice indeed, you remember the volume thread, yes another fantabulous thread where nothing was resolved except for the issue of blind and uneducated opinion. Volume signatures are key to realising trends on all TFs, but i wouldn't get out of bed for the sub 1hr candles. Just my opinion of course.

    TD, i do appologise for my previous behaviour towards your good self, i hope you will accept this.


    Yours,


    Dackster.
     
    #31     Jul 26, 2009
  2. Cesko

    Cesko

    Funny, there is an insight. Here it is:

    Do you believe you can reasonably anticipate or identify a trend day?

    IRRELEVANT QUESTION.


    P.S. Your spelling is certainly one of the best on ET.
     
    #32     Jul 26, 2009
  3. Thunderdog, I just noticed Dackster's English English spelling. You may be neighbors.
     
    #33     Jul 26, 2009


  4. Thunderdog,

    Let me give you an example of how a 'typical' volume signature works. Firstly let's start with a well pronounced cycle, let's say a weekly cycle on the NQ. The end of the distributive phase starts with the 'mark down' or the first leg down, you will get X amount of contracts bought at the peak around a certain price or zone. Then comes the second leg down, you'll probably see more contracts being bought than the first leg. Then the third phase or leg comes into play, this is the 'teller' leg, if buying dries up then the market is ready to start selling off at higher prices. The confirmation comes in the appearance of strength to the upside (big green candles).

    If you are not sure about any of this, feel free to ask questions.



    Yours,



    Dackster.
     
    #34     Jul 26, 2009
  5. not true.....pm me and i will give guarnted stratagies..
     
    #35     Jul 26, 2009
  6. If you actually read my opening post in its entirety, then you would know that I essentially feel the same way. However, I am curious to know how many people here see it differently.
     
    #36     Jul 26, 2009
  7. You're very kind, but I'm fairly comfortable with my trading in its present form. You are liable to confuse me. :)
     
    #37     Jul 26, 2009
  8. Are you saying that you won't act on the upside unless and until you get volume confirmation, all else being equal?
     
    #38     Jul 26, 2009
  9. Anyone who tells you they can identify when there is going to be a trend day greater than 75% of the time in advance is full of shit, think of the money that would be involved in that... All you can do in my opinion is identify when something has the potential to trend and just hold. I do this often times with a system i am trading and i am wrong more than half the time but you only need 1-2 trades out of 10 to trend all day to be profitable, once in a while you get three to five and it ends up being a monster day. If you are using proper stops, and allowing the trending ones to run. All day.

    If you could identify a stock that is going to trend in advance 80 percent of the time all you would have to do is flip a coin for which way the trend is going to go and you would now have a system with 4 winners out of every 10 trades that profit 5 times or more than each loser. Do the math on that one.

    If you are running a trend system where you are guessing trends in advance, and you nail 2 out of 10, then the other 8 still have a 50/50 chance of being winners or losers so imo the biggest thing is to put your money into a basket of stocks so that no one stock will make or break you.


     
    #39     Jul 26, 2009
  10. Specterx

    Specterx

    I think this is a pretty good summary of it all.

    You can manage risk/lock in profits by scaling out, trailing stop, take an educated guess as to where price may halt (prior S or R) and kill everything there, or wait for a confirmed reversal formation. But that's about as much as you can do.
     
    #40     Jul 26, 2009