POLL: Do you believe that supply-side economics is legitimate economic theory?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Thunderdog, Mar 31, 2009.

Which statement is more accurate?

  1. Supply-side economics is a legitimate economic theory

    55 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. Supply-side "economics" is nothing more than an excuse to enrich the already entitled.

    46 vote(s)
    45.5%
  1. I'll be blunt: If Pedro and Maria aren't washing a rich guys car, busing his dishes, watering his lawn or cleaning the stall in his office then what are they skilled to do? The poor work at the invitation of the leisure class.

    In a service economy/society with an unskilled minority/immigrant class becoming a rapidly dominant demographic the continued enrichment of the upper-muddle class is PARAMOUNT to the pursuit of semi-full employment.

    It matters little if the rich "hoard" their money. Are they keeping it under a mattress? Hardly. After paying their massive tax bill they might put it in Treasuries which helps float our national debt. Or they put it in CD's helping the balance sheets of our troubled banks. If they buy stocks they're bringing in buying support to a market needing investment. Any activity short of lighting cigars with C-Notes creates utility in exchange for a nominal rate of return.
     
    #11     Mar 31, 2009
  2. Not quite so..................the soviet union and cuba did not have 100% tax revenue. Where did you get that from???


     
    #12     Mar 31, 2009
  3. It was for all intents and purposes 100% tax rate. You worked and the government distributed money to you. It was a completely centralized and planned economy.
     
    #13     Mar 31, 2009
  4. how would a direct transfer to consumers not allocate the money more efficiently to capitalists via the market?
     
    #14     Mar 31, 2009
  5. That's correct but there was no 100% tax. I was there.

     
    #15     Mar 31, 2009
  6. In theory but that wasn't the application. The U.S.S.R. swapped resources-even arms- for the best currency of all-anything not resembling a ruble. Thus they were not some mythical, self sufficient socialist utopia.
     
    #16     Mar 31, 2009
  7. Cesko

    Cesko

    ....... I laugh at the demos who say they will work harder if you raise their taxes, raise them to 95% then, see how hard they work.

    Or if they can, cheat on their taxes while moralizing about selfish right-wing bastards.
     
    #17     Mar 31, 2009
  8. Mav88

    Mav88

    sorry jueco, but econ 101 is trash, as I said econ is pseudo science so i don't give a crap about what any of your books say.

    Exe: the supply-demand equilibrium point is a bunch of garbage, I have never seen any market reach equilibrium where all bids and offers are met and prices are flat for any decent length of time. One look at a price chart tells you that markets are always far from equilibrium.

    Marginal utility is also kind of dumb, etc.

    btw in pseudo sciences, the '101' class keeps changing anyway. Samuelson I believe has been revised quite a bit. Do we need anymore evidence than the constant disagreements among leading economic figures and then constantly incorrect predictions?
     
    #18     Mar 31, 2009
  9. Mav88

    Mav88

    I doubt the laffer curve would even apply in a command and control economy, the Soviet Union is a bad example.
     
    #19     Mar 31, 2009
  10. Yes and no. I agree that economics is at best a social science and that it is nowhere near a pure, hard science. However, in the main, it is not without value. Further, I don't think that all economic theories are created equal, as you alluded in the first sentence of your second paragraph. Supply-side has less to do with economics than it has to do with politics. It is not so much an area of study as it is an ideology. Most (non-partisan) people involved in the serious study of economics consider trickle-down economics laughable at best. Therefore, let's at least call supply-side what it is: the Scientology of economics. Again, let me stress that I agree with your contention that the study of economics is not a true science. However, by way of comparison, supply-side is to economics what creationism is to science.
     
    #20     Mar 31, 2009