Podesta Steps down for no reason... right? (dnc trolls should love this)

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    Don’t listen to these guys, you are actually correct and they are wrong.

    Trump accused the fbi of funding the dossier in an unhinged tweet and the right wing blogs have run with it ever since.

    There is no evidence to support this accusation to date and wnd is not a credible source.
     
    #51     Oct 31, 2017
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  4. jem

    jem

    while I did not bring up the FBI... lets see what the wash post says... so we can see if you statement was completely fair.

    upon reading ... the only question left is the technicality of delivery of the money. They did apparently hire him.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-heres-what-it-means/?utm_term=.11702536104e

    But The Post originally reported on the FBI's agreement back in February. At the time, it also reported it never actually paid for the work after the agent was identified in news reports:

    The former British spy who authored a controversial dossier on behalf of Donald Trump’s political opponents alleging ties between Trump and Russia reached an agreement with the FBI a few weeks before the election for the bureau to pay him to continue his work, according to several people familiar with the arrangement.

    . . .

    Ultimately, the FBI did not pay Steele. Communications between the bureau and the former spy were interrupted as Steele’s now-famous dossier became the subject of news stories, congressional inquiries and presidential denials, according to the people familiar with the arrangement, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.



     
    #54     Oct 31, 2017
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  5. jem

    jem

    to show that I was accurate...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/politics/steele-dossier-trump-expained.html

    During the Republican primaries, a donor opposed to Mr. Trump becoming the party’s presidential candidate retained a research firm called Fusion GPS to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The donor has never been identified, but several possible suspects have denied responsibility, including officials from the so-called super PACs that supported the rival campaigns of Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida.

    After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information.
     
    #55     Oct 31, 2017
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  6. jem

    jem

    and the times gives us even more context..
    I wonder if memos from McCain are the same as the dossier itself or just part of it. .
    if they are not the full dossier almost everything piezoe said was wrong.

    what the hell is a matter with today's old world govt loving fascists... He can't even get the major points of his argument straight.

    I also note...

    Before election day the FBI agreed to pay Steele.

    so piezoe was wrong again.






    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/politics/steele-dossier-trump-expained.html
    James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director whose firing by Mr. Trump prompted the appointment of a special counsel to oversee the Justice Department’s Russia investigation, received a copy of the memos after Election Day from Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. Mr. McCain had dispatched David J. Kramer, a former top State Department official, to obtain the dossier directly from Mr. Steele. And before Election Day, the F.B.I. reached an agreement to pay Mr. Steele to continue his research, though that plan was scrapped after the dossier was published. During the presidential transition, senior American intelligence officials briefed Mr. Trump and President Barack Obama on the dossier.

    Investigators from the House and Senate intelligence committees and Mr. Mueller’s team have been exploring claims made in the dossier. Mr. Mueller’s team reportedly interviewed Mr. Steele over the summer.
     
    #56     Oct 31, 2017
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  7. jem

    jem

    I can almost guarantee you there was a meeting between obama team and these national security guys... to coordinate a take of trump... but you can be sure they will never admit to it.


    I want you lefties to think about how the state can be used against you all in the future.

    This is really orewellian shit. you should all be against it.
     
    #57     Oct 31, 2017
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  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    So, you’re saying the fbi, in fact, did not pay for the dossier and the other guy was correct. That is correct.

    Sarah Sanders would be very disappointed in you believing the Washington Post, btw.
     
    #58     Oct 31, 2017
  9. jem

    jem

    whose socket puppet are you?
    only dnc trolls act so dense.

    1. I did not comment on whether the fbi paid anything.
    2. but to make sure everyone knew the facts...
    I gave you articles from the times and the post which stated that the fbi did hire steele. and contrary to piezoe assertion they hired him before the election.

    here it in is for you again.

    "And before Election Day, the F.B.I. reached an agreement to pay Mr. Steele to continue his research, though that plan was scrapped after the dossier was published. During the presidential transition, senior American intelligence officials briefed Mr. Trump and President Barack Obama on the dossier."
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    conclusion...
    so the Republicans did not hire steele through fusion gps. the dnc types or hillary did.

    and the fbi hired steele before election day but may have reneged on their deal to pay him. The money is a far smaller issue than the fact that they hired him.

    there is a possibility that McCain only gave the FBI a memo and not the dossier if the reporter used english accurately.



     
    #59     Oct 31, 2017

  10. The FBI agreed to start paying for work on the dossier but the operation and the dossier scenario was publicly exposed before the fbi payments commenced, so the fbi pulled out because it was not longer clandestine, duh!. But yeh, the FBI was complicit in discussions and efforts to collude with trump's opponent. Agreeing to do something that got derailed is still evidence of supporting something and participating in it. An effort that involved payments to current or former kgb agents via the british agent.

    Nasty business. The government colluding with a political opponent.

    More to come. Go ahead and be right about everything for now. You are not the one who decides what will become and issue and what will not. Frigging government goons were working with people who were being paid by a company being paid by the Clinton campaign and the dnc.
     
    #60     Oct 31, 2017
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