Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gordon Gekko, Jun 26, 2002.

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    #101     Oct 21, 2003
  2. I think the people who originally wasted the money
    to PUT IT ON money, should pay for their error by paying
    to get it taken off money.

    peace

    axeman


     
    #102     Oct 21, 2003
  3. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    Why??? they are not the ones arguing to take it off....if you want it off great...but pay for it...

    Im with you, just pay for it.....When you want your house painted the way you want it do you make the previous onwer pay for it??? ....either collect money from the non-believers( minority ) to pay for it or if you dont care leave it as is......peace
     
    #103     Oct 21, 2003
  4. TM: "WRONG....how was the girls constitutional rights violated, name one right violated? especially in light of the fact she is christian"

    Ummm, what about the parents constitutional rights?
    A parent should be able to send their child to a public "religious neutral" school.
    Tax pay dollars should not be used
    to pay for the establishment of religion in public schools.
    Any parent that sends a child to a public school can challenge this,
    regardless of wife/daughter beliefs.
    The supreme court obviously AGREES, since they agreed to
    take the case. ( Didn't they?? Don't quite remember )

    Personally, I will wait and see what the court decides.

    My guess is that they sidestep the issue and throw it out
    for reasons other than separation of church and state.

    As for your claim that he is doing it for his own gain... WHAT gain?
    This man is going to catch living hell from all sides for
    the rest of his life. He must sincerely believe he is correct to
    put himself through something like this. It's going to SUCK for him.
    At least he lives in california. He will be ok there, mostly.
    But he will be hated on a national level.

    If he tried this in the bible belt, he better seriously fear for his life.


    peace

    axeman
     
    #104     Oct 21, 2003
  5. maxpi

    maxpi

    That is fine but Christian parents that want to send their kids to a private school are faced with paying for two schools. That is not economically "religious neutral" at all, that is very biased towards the new religion of secular humanism.
     
    #105     Oct 21, 2003
  6. Simple.

    If you painted someones house a different color, and then a court ruled that
    you did it illegally, wouldn't you be required to PAY to have
    it painted back to the original color? Yep :)


    When the majority wasted our $$$ to have our money changed
    to add "In god we trust" ILLEGALLY, then the majority should
    have to pay to fix the error.

    When blacks and women won the right to vote, did anyone
    ask them to PAY for the changes to all the voting forms, and
    related machinery and processes? Of course not.

    peace

    axeman



     
    #106     Oct 21, 2003
  7. Axe.....trust me...READ up on this character......He is SEPARATED form his daughter and has not been involved in her up bringing...HER MOTHER and HER are devout CHRISTIANS...and the father even said " i used my daughter as the hook".....this guy has also been on the speaking circuit at all the law schools....he's been on CNN, O'Reilly ect....he is parlaying this into big cash for himself at the expense of a daughter who wants to be left alone!!!....what a hero
     
    #107     Oct 21, 2003
  8. Totally false.

    This is true of ANYONE, including the nonreligious.

    They TOO must pay for TWO schools if they wish to
    send their child to a private school.

    It amazes me that people are so against a public school that
    DOES NOT push other peoples views.

    If a school makes no mention of ANY beliefs like atheism, or
    theism, why do the theists always then assume its an
    atheistic school???

    That is their core flaw.


    peace

    axeman



     
    #108     Oct 21, 2003

  9. Please explian to me how , if you send your child to public school you have to come out of pocket for private schools as well????:confused: ....also, if you live in an aprtament or rental in most states, explain to me how youeven have to puy for public schools? generally its connected to real estate taxes
     
    #109     Oct 21, 2003
  10. maxpi was making this claim, not me.

    He said:

    "That is fine but Christian parents that want to send their kids to a private school are faced with paying for two schools. That is not economically "religious neutral" at all, that is very biased towards the new religion of secular humanism."


    I just pointed out that this holds true for everyone.
    You pay for public school with your taxes and then pay
    again if you wish to send your kid to a private school instead,
    regardless if you are christian or atheist or whatever.

    peace

    axeman



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    Please explian to me how , if you send your child to public school you have to come out of pocket for private schools as well????:confused: ....also, if you live in an aprtament or rental in most states, explain to me how youeven have to puy for public schools? generally its connected to real estate taxes
     
    #110     Oct 21, 2003