Playing the after hours market with expiring options

Discussion in 'Options' started by FSU, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. FSU

    FSU

    Whether an option is auto exercised is based on the stocks 4pm close, but the closing price might occur just after 4pm.
     
    #11     Feb 9, 2020
  2. i once sold a put option, it is out of money at 4pm, but after the market, it moves down a lot, made the option in the money. in the end, the option did not expire worthless if calculated using 4pm, it is exercised which gave me a big loss.
     
    #12     Feb 9, 2020
  3. so if I buy 1 tsla 750 call, at 4pm, it is 749.5, so it expires out of the money. but after market it goes to 751, so I can ask broker to exercise the option (i get 100 shares)? how about if after the 4pm, tsla goes further down to 748, can I still ask broker to exercise the option( even though no one would do it)?
     
    #13     Feb 9, 2020
  4. neke

    neke

    Yes, you can ask the broker to exercise even if it is out of the money. Your earlier statement said you shorted the stock when it came above 750. You might as well cover when it came back down to 748 and leave your option expire.
     
    #14     Feb 9, 2020
  5. Thanks for the hint. It is not the first time you discuss openly about actionable idea and I really wish to thank you for this. I have just one question. What broker do you use? I have IB and usually they start to liquidate my positions that could lead to an assignment a few hours after the market opens.
     
    #15     Feb 10, 2020
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  6. FSU

    FSU

    My main account is through Dash Prime, clearing through Apex. I also have an IB account that I use for futures and for trading SPX options after hours and a TD account.
     
    #16     Feb 10, 2020
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  7. Adam777

    Adam777

    Thanks FSU. I noticed that Dash Prime mentions "minimum account size of $100,000" which is out of my range for a single investment. Do you know any retail brokers with lower account minimums, that allow trading expiring options in the after hours market? I'm looking through this now
     
    #17     Feb 11, 2020
  8. FSU

    FSU

    You are not really trading the options in the after hours market, you are trading stock in the after hours market against options you traded before the market closes. Most brokers allow access to this after hours market. What you want to check is what is the cutoff time the broker requires for option exercises.
     
    #18     Feb 11, 2020

  9. do you know IB's cut time for option exercise?
     
    #19     Feb 11, 2020
  10. FSU

    FSU

    I do not
     
    #20     Feb 11, 2020