Planning a Trip to Spain? Don't go.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Dec 2, 2024.

  1. deaddog

    deaddog

    The problem is it affects everyone. If more data has to be collected to control immigrants, it affects the privacy of the rest of us. I know, Iknow, if you aren't a criminal it won't affect you but it will be a pain in the ass to comply.
     
    #41     Dec 2, 2024
  2. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    I posted facts too but you choose to categorize them as opinions because you choose to believe in what you believe in. Israeli soldiers committing genocide IF it's true? So what you call what Hamas did, kidnapping and killing innocent civilians who were just attending concerts and in the kibbutz? Getting a party started? LOL I dunno why that video is blocked or whether it is blocked but if it's blocked, it's very likely because it's fake. It's not the first time that they frame Israeli military forces for something that they did not do. They accused the Israelis of firing missiles into a Palestinian hospital and then after analyzing the trajectory of the missiles, it was discovered that the missiles actually came from Hamas. Hamas shot its own people in order to frame Israel to get sympathy from the world.

    There are a lot of those going around nowadays. Just this summer, on one of the taxi ride that me and my partner took, this taxi driver started to lecture us about the horrendous things that the Jews have been doing and he cited one of the things that the Jews did was to force the Covid vaccines on us because all of the pharmaceutical companies that produced vaccines were all controlled by the Jews so they could make money (unbeknownst to him I am sure that pharmaceutical companies all around the world including Russia and China were producing vaccines to combat Covid because Covid was a worldwide pandemic?) and use us as genuine pigs, he was going on and on and on until my partner just couldn't take it anymore and quietly reminded him that Jewish people themselves received the same vaccines that all of us did? And he finally went quiet.

    It just tells you how one needs to be careful about the information that you receive and how one needs to have critical thinking skill to analyze information and decide for oneself the merit and the validity of the information received instead of just blindly accepting them as the truth. This is how Nazi Germany was able to silence public conscience to kill six million Jewish people including children. We can't let that happen again.
     
    #42     Dec 2, 2024
  3. That is because they already knew everything.

    Akuma
     
    #43     Dec 2, 2024
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  4. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Well I guess you won't want to go to Japan then cuz now whenever you enter Japan, you need to be fingerprinted. It doesn't get more invasive of privacy than the characteristics of your body being recorded in their database.

    And besides you are already like what 20+ years too late? NSA have been listening on our phone calls for years in the name of national security ever since 9/11 happened. So if you are concerned about your privacy, it's already long gone. LOL As a matter of fact, what you are typing right now is already recorded...:wtf:
     
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    #44     Dec 2, 2024
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  5. VicBee

    VicBee

    I see you don't travel much do you? When you travel to other countries (Europe included) you show your passport upon arrival at the hotel.
    You also probably didn't read the article because you'd see that this "royal decree" (wtf?) is going much further, requiring 40 pieces of information, including proof of a visitor's residence and pre approvals before even flying into Spain.

    I don't know any countries other than North Korea, that has such burdensome requirements to visit their country.
     
    #45     Dec 3, 2024
  6. I only have been to a half of the world, mainly because of the job I had, and some on holidays. I am sure that I have traveled way more than you have.

    Everything in Spain is by "royal decree". That is a way to write legal documents in countries where there are Royal families. That doesn't mean that the king had anything to do with it. It is legal writing.

    In the UK the tax system is run by HMRC (His majesty Revenue and Customs) and I am sure that Charlie the Third is not counting pennies at home.

    You know nothing about Spain and have mixed some random news with the country. Just read other nationals in this thread that are already telling you that is the same in their country.

    It looks like that is you who has to travel a lot more to find out that what you are complaining about is actually the norm.
     
    #46     Dec 3, 2024
  7. VicBee

    VicBee

    My understanding is as follows (info gathered from discussion on travel related forums):

    If you own a property in Spain and friends from wherever plan to visit you, you will need to gather their details (passport, proof of residence, proof of kinship, stay duration, among other info), go to the local police station and submit the info on a form. The police will have 2 weeks to approve the stay and you will have to pick up the form from the police station.

    Then, you will need to send the form to your friends who will need to go to the Spanish embassy or consulate of their country with the form and associated documented proof in order to get the form stamped.

    The traveling party will need to present the stamped form at customs to be allowed in the country. Without it, you will be required to take the next flight back where you came from.

    Insane
     
    #47     Dec 3, 2024
  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    Lol, I assure you that I've not only travelled but lived in many more countries than you have... If you want to play dick size.

    Oh, and I also own a property in Spain.
     
    #48     Dec 3, 2024
  9. Anyone can write anything they want, especially when they are in an argument. We have no way to check if you are being truthful.

    Wait! Actually we have, asking for the exact details of your flight number, accommodation details and the person you are going to visit has been part of many countries' visas in the past. You would know that if you had traveled like you say, you lying wanker.
     
    #49     Dec 3, 2024
  10. I am going to ask you a few questions to see if it is true that you own a property in Spain.
    If you do, you must have done a few steps.

    - Tell me the official name of the person that is able to make the transaction of buying a house in Spain.

    You can google that so let's go a bit further
    - Tell me the name of the document that you receive when you buy a house in Spain. You must have a reference number, what is the name of that reference?

    You also can google that, but let's go a bit further
    - Tell the name of the document that the owner has to present to sell a house, you should have received that document before, you have to sign that document in order to complete the transaction.

    And to finalize tell the name of the tax that you have to pay in order to own the house.

    You would know this process by heart if you had done it. No one can do it for you.
     
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    #50     Dec 3, 2024