Place your bets! Quiz #3

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by axeman, Nov 18, 2002.

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  1. Results
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    DTK +1.50 Wooo hoo!!! :D
    AllenCook +0.65
    miniTrdr +0.53
    Dantheman +0.50
    kokosij +0.31
    TriPack -0.02
    ElCubano -0.02
    QQQBALL -0.02
    Trajan -0.02
    Corallus -0.02
    Gordon Gekko -0.02
    Sanjuro -0.02
    wdbaker -0.02
    uptik2000 -0.15
    Peri -0.16
    Amkeer -0.16
    inandlong -0.22


    Sorry for the delay.... im swamped.

    This one was interesting.
    Wanted to see if anyone would give that pullback
    enough breathing room to allow the strong downtrend
    room to work. 5 guys did.
    peace

    axeman



    Details
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    Dantheman
    49.53 STOP
    48.53 TARGET
    +0.50

    inandlong
    Target 48.60
    Stop High of this bar plus +.10
    -0.22

    Peri
    target 48.49
    stop 49.19
    -0.16

    DTK
    Stop 50.03
    Target 47.53
    +1.50


    miniTrdr
    stop at 49.75
    first target 48.50 -
    if it doesnt break, look to take profits or breakeven
    if it breaks below 48.40 move stop to 48.50
    next target 48.10
    stopped out at 48.50
    +0.53

    uptik2000
    stop 49.18
    tgt..48.60
    -0.15

    kokosij
    stop - 48.50
    exit position end of day
    +0.31

    AllenCook
    Initial stop: 49.55 (if it penetrates the 50MA)
    For exit: If it doesn't stop out soon,
    place a trailing stop w/+0.20
    stopped out at 48.38
    +0.65


    Amkeer
    Stop at 49.19
    target 48.54
    -0.16

    TriPack
    -0.02

    ElCubano
    -0.02

    QQQBALL
    -0.02

    Trajan
    -0.02

    Corallus
    -0.02

    Gordon Gekko
    -0.02

    Sanjuro
    -0.02

    wdbaker
    -0.02
     
    #11     Nov 20, 2002
  2. here's my reasoning for staying in the short trade...

    entry short @ 49.03 OK (same deal as before i'm only willing to risk 50 bucks on each trade so that necessitates a .50 or less stop.)

    It just so happens that what I see is:
    The last major move I saw was from 50.50 to 48.50....it's what my eyes gravitated to first and it was my initial impression that this up-move was only going to be a retracement. You could make an argument that the major move was from 51.00 down to 48.50. But. that is not what I saw.

    Well .50 from entry would put my stop @ 49.53 (which is just about 50% retracement of the move down that I saw.)
    Meaning that only if it moved past that point would my initial reasoning be invalidated (in my mind).

    I also believed it could go down for a retest of 48.50.

    As it turns out i could have been more generous with my profit target but...i have a tendancy to undershoot my profits.
     
    #12     Nov 20, 2002
  3. DTK

    DTK

    Well...

    I used the 200 MA on the lower chart which also corresponds the to the base that the bear trap was set up on the day before, that gave me a possible loss of 1 (I chose 50.03 because that would have led to a round number loss of 1 {I didn't include comms.}).

    The target was based on the move from the bear trap high of around 50.50 and the low that was achieved on the move of around 48.50 which was a 2 dollar move. I figured that the low from 2 days ago would provide the first level of resistance and then the 49.75 - 50.00 area would provide the second level of resistance.

    I figured that I would let it go to the first candle of 2 days ago at 49.50 and then let it make another similar 2 dollar move down to 47.53 (once again using the .03 for a nice round profit). Good thing I left it some slack. I don't think it hit 47.03.

    Over-analysis? Probably.
    Was it what was going through my head when I made my decision? Yes.
    Did I disregard the affect of the futures on the stock? Yeah.


    Oops... 9:30!!!




     
    #13     Nov 20, 2002
  4. miniTrdr

    miniTrdr

    thanks axeman - nice quiz

    entry looked a little low compared to 200ma but at an eyed in trendline of highs - since last time it hit 200ma it broke by a some cents put stop above current 200ma by a couple more cents. exit sucked - think i mistype exit stop info but it was to tight.
     
    #14     Nov 20, 2002
  5. When you set your next resistence level to 48.50,
    you got stopped out, exactly to the penny.

    Should have given it a little more breathing room
    above 48.50, if that was going to be your
    new stop.

    But what do I know :D



    peace

    axeman



     
    #15     Nov 20, 2002
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