Pinkmans' technical analysis journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by pinkman, Aug 17, 2013.

  1. Sounds like you dont have a clue what you are doing. If you are not trading with clear profit targets, you should not get in the trade. You should have an idea how long you are going to hold if the trade moves the way u expect. If it begins to move in a way unfavorable to your trade, you can adjust your target. But if you dont have a plan before getting in, you shoulda stayed out !

    I shorted the open of the ES with a clear profit target in mind. Once it hit, I exited with my buy limit already set in place. So when it crashed minutes later, I couldnt say woulda coulda shoulda.
     
    #151     Sep 6, 2013
  2. Well done.
     
    #152     Sep 6, 2013
  3. I'm in again!
    Can't drag myself away from the screen today!

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    #153     Sep 6, 2013
  4. out +20 ticks

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    #154     Sep 6, 2013
  5. I figured it was probably an oversight..I like much of what you post :)
     
    #155     Sep 6, 2013
  6. Redneck

    Redneck

    I’ve never met DB, nor spoken to him other than our posts on this forum.., and a couple of PMs

    But I can tell you about him with regards to your post excerpt

    He only waits for the better setups

    Once he’s entered – if the trade goes the other way – he’s out.. absolutely no futzing around

    And he’ll reveres with the same keystroke when appropriate

    Over and over and over and over and over and over and over….
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    On one hand; he is hard, and as inflexible as granite – managing and exiting losers/ waiting on a proper entry

    On the other hand he is as flexible, and malleable as water – getting on board with price

    Those two qualities;

    are exact opposites
    are necessary to trade
    do not naturally occur in a human (least that I’ve ever met).

    Rather those qualities/ skills need to be created/ nurtured/ matured within one’s self

    The way he suggests is correct, and ultimately the goal – but for a non experienced trader nearly impossible to implement

    Several steps of development must occur first

    Its akin to asking a baby to run a marathon

    Until and unless that baby matures and develops the skills – it ain’t happening


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    Classic example;

    Enter a trade, it goes your way a bit then turns against you… but instead of going strong against you – price futzes around bouncing back and forth, then goes a little more against you.. but then almost comes back to B/E – not quite – but almost

    Then it goes against you even more – giving you cause to hesitate exiting as you think possibly it’ll return and I’ll exit this time

    Then it goes way against you – now you hesitate because it’s a big loser / bigger than what is was a few seconds/ ticks ago

    Then the.., only what if – what I should have done – why didn’t I – creeps in causing further hesitation

    Meanwhile the mind is racing with all sorts of thoughts (crap) and you're losing money

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    Conversely DB has simply exited…, or exited and reversed – and is sitting there twiddling his thumbs – la de da de da

    There is never any ambiguity / thinking / second guessing/ or angst with DB

    Whenever PA is not giving clear signals – he waits patiently

    Whenever its time to act – he acts

    And you can replace DB’s name with any experience trader

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    So to answer your question directly;

    Yes I agree with his statement… but I also understand what’s required to implement it

    Taking it solely at face value – is a disaster looking for a place to happen

    RN
     
    #156     Sep 6, 2013
  7. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I clarified my statement, somewhat, earlier. But there is an additional clarification which may be required, which is that one has to decide at some point just what it is that he wants. Only then can he determine how to go about getting it.

    Beginners have to decide whether they want to trade or make money. Nearly all decide that they want to trade, which is what leads to the scenario that you unfolded in your post. If they instead decide that they want to make money, they will then do whatever is necessary to make money, which includes studying the market, reading, experimenting, taking the time to understand just what it is they're looking at (which is a prerequisite to knowing what to do with it).

    At bottom, I'm just too cheap to crap away good money, which prevents me from trading the way just about everybody trades. I find the lack of respect which so many have for money to be appalling, but it's not my money, so it really isn't any of my business. But, given the hundreds of failures I've seen over the past twenty years, the story is familiar, and I know the ending. In fact, if my name hadn't been invoked, I wouldn't be posting here at all. But it was, and I want to make sure that I'm understood. If everyone wants to move on, that's perfectly okay by me.
     
    #157     Sep 6, 2013
  8. Very nice trade. Was in a similar one myself a few minutes before you :cool:
     
    #158     Sep 6, 2013
  9. Redneck

    Redneck


    No sense reinventing the wheel...., its all right up there ^

    Leaving you to it PM

    You get fed up – do the work


    RN goin fishin (for you TD :cool: )
     
    #159     Sep 6, 2013
  10. Lets see what next week brings.
    Method has help up overall so far, despite a few bumps along the way! But that's real time trading for ya I guess.
    Pleased to have had 3 winning weeks in a row.
    Certainly expecting a losing week at some point soon, so maybe next week.
    I'll settle for one losing week each month, though!

    Nice to know that I was in the same trade as you, Airwaves!
     
    #160     Sep 6, 2013