Piers Morgan losing it again

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Maverick74, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Brass

    Brass

    You are clearly the master of parody, because no one can really be that stupid. Very entertaining.
     
    #61     Jul 25, 2012
  2. Brass

    Brass

    So if there were no laws, it would all be better? Consider the implications.
     
    #62     Jul 25, 2012
  3. achilles28

    achilles28

    The only idiot around here is you, my friend. The Founders created the richest, most powerful nation the world has ever known. The 2nd Amendment has kept the machinations of despots - foreign and domestic - in check for the past 200 years. Love it or leave it.
     
    #63     Jul 25, 2012
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Come on. Brass...you're being difficult again. Nobody is saying there should not be no laws. We simply need to enforce the laws we have and focus government resources on the "causes" of these events vs going door to door and taking people's ability to protect themselves away from them. Most of the people on the left believe removing all guns will solve the problem even if they know this will never happen. The problem is even that extreme measure would not solve the problem.

    Why is it that the left always moves to that extreme? People on the right want NO taxes or NO government or NO regulations. I think we can do with a lot less but certainly we don't need to add any more. Most of us just want a leaner and more effective government.
     
    #64     Jul 25, 2012
  5. Brass

    Brass

    Fine, so why not ban automatic (and perhaps even semi-automatic) weaponry? That will at least prevent or limit the kind of outlying carnage when the wrong people get their hands on such arms. Is that a sufficient compromise? Along with better and more stringent background checks and requirements, and fully functioning and properly funded mental health facilities.

    People don't need automatic weapons to protect their homes or for that level-playing-field "sport," hunting. And I sure as hell wouldn't want well-intentioned good samaritans walking around (swaggering?) with automatic weapons.

    Sure, it won't get these weapons out of the hands of the wrong people who already own them, but unless you start somewhere, you go nowhere.
     
    #65     Jul 25, 2012
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    When I hear the word ban, I see an arm's dealer eyes light up. No need to ban. I have no issue with back ground checks and waiting periods. I also support mandatory sentencing for any crime committed by a gun. I would support mandatory 10 years for any gun crime and mandatory life without parole for any convicted murder who used a gun to kill someone. Now even that will not stop the Holmes of the world, but it would be effective for going after gangs.
     
    #66     Jul 25, 2012
  7. Brass

    Brass

    Right. The last thing you want to try and do is limit access when trying to curtail usage. Sure. So the best way to prevent people from stealing your car is to be sure and leave the keys inside.
     
    #67     Jul 25, 2012
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Oh come on. See why we can't get anywhere in these debates? Brass, are you denying the fact that gangs and the mafia won't seize upon the opportunity to provide the street with guns if you ban them at the retail level? Come on, don't be that obtuse. As far as cars go, yes, the more rare a car is, the higher the value. This is why limited edition cars trade at a premium or old classic cars that actually can increase in value with age!!!!

    I actually knew a guy who was a car thief back in the day and he said if a thief wants your car, he'll get it. Locks or alarms are not going to stop him. They take the cars they want, not the cars that are available. Hence why car thieves don't hang out at redneck trailer parks stealing 1985 Ford Escorts that never have their doors locked.
     
    #68     Jul 25, 2012
  9. achilles28

    achilles28

    "Banning" doesn't work, retard. Drugs are banned. Prostitution is banned. (Private) gambling, is banned. Handguns are largely banned in most Canadian cities, yet handgun crime is on the rise. How on earth do criminals buy guns, deal drugs, gamble or pimp hookers if all these things are "banned"?!?!?

    Boggles the mind, doesn't it!?!?
     
    #69     Jul 25, 2012
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    You're not expecting perfection from those bans, are you?
     
    #70     Jul 25, 2012