Physics and Trading? Hmm…….

Discussion in 'Trading' started by FutTrd, Sep 18, 2006.

  1. Can you explain the model a little more?

    Thanks,
    -Kastro
     
    #81     Sep 25, 2006
  2. kamisu

    kamisu

    For anyone interested, apparently there is an informative book to read regarding the Chaos theory in the market place.
    Haven't read it myself but here is a comment from someone who has:

    "This book is titled The Predictors by Thomas A. Bass. It is the story of a group of scientists and mathematicians who developed Chaos Theory for the financial markets beginning in August 1991 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. In this book it states that Chaos Theory is 10,000 times more accurate than any other form of mathematical prediction ever applied to the markets. Further, the book goes on to state that chaos theory, "when applied to market data the new technology produces substantial returns and there is less than a one in ten thousand chance that the models are wrong."

    Kami
     
    #82     Sep 26, 2006
  3. Prevail

    Prevail Guest

    a good read but quite dated at this point. in one chapter they discussed how to get data from the exchange to the west coast. a single long distance data feed via phone modem was suggested. :p
     
    #83     Sep 26, 2006
  4. alesanti

    alesanti

    I've read the book. I also saw a site that claims having developed a trading system applying the same kind of science explained in the book. The site is alela.com, they used to sell their predictions but no anymore. I've read that they have closed a deal with esignal through another company called tradingpro.com

    Their claims are striking.
     
    #84     Sep 26, 2006
  5. jdi

    jdi

    I believe the results are still mixed. Doyne Farmer has written a lot of interesting articles on chaos, complex adaptive systems, econophysics etc. Just search his name on google if you are interested.
    You can also read Edgar PEters books (Chaos, Fractals) for introduction to the application of chaos/fractal theory to capital market. But personally, I like Tonis Vaga book better (application of physics to the capital market). It's an old early 90's book.
     
    #85     Sep 26, 2006
  6. These are the guys who built shoe computers to predict the probability of landing in a sector at roulette.

    They used their toes (and lots of practice) to enter the position when the ball was released. They had to enter data, get results, and place their bets before the dealer said "no more bets." Primitive CPUs of the era (8080-85, Z-80?) and faulty hardware design and construction (they could have used an Electrical Engineer! :D) made the results mixed, but it sure was an interesting and bold effort.

    Crazy guys...
     
    #86     Sep 26, 2006
  7. kamisu

    kamisu

    #87     Sep 27, 2006
  8. pattersb

    pattersb Guest

    A physicist should have little problem with quantative analysis, but F=MA has zero relevance to stock movement.

    Your friend's analogy of the water droplet is an elegant one. Like predicting the movement of water by gauging wind resistance, imperfections in the surface, hydrodynamics, the curvature of the windshield, etc, ... one should be able to "predict" stock price movement by its external forces.

    physics is a hell of alot more of an exact a science though ... people, and therefore markets, can act irrationally, that is to say people are crazy. A body in motion, isn't effected by its feelings of fear or greed.
     
    #88     Sep 27, 2006
  9. and if you replace feelings by speed and greed by acceleration ? mmmmhhhhh....
     
    #89     Sep 27, 2006
  10. uncertainty on FDI is missing on the oil trend plot...
     
    #90     Sep 27, 2006