Perfect Shorting Opportunity

Discussion in 'Trading' started by EMRGLOBAL, Oct 21, 2011.

  1. This rally, today is a perfect shorting opportunity as of late morning IMHO.

    These are the rallies to build short in....

    Market is setting up for another serious sell off but it could be a week of so.
  2. Are you offering an ironclad guarantee?
  3. NoDoji


    For swing traders, Friday's close confirms Monday's break out of the range high (which was followed by a 2nd and 3rd confirmation of previous resistance - ES 1190 - as new support). There's airspace from here to at least 1250.

    I'm curious why you'd start a short here in no man's land (short-wise). Wouldn't it make more sense to start building a short around 1250 if it resists, or breaks out and fails, or at least wait to see if this current breakout fails?
  4. spd


    Oh Mrs Doji, surely you know by now that gut feelings of "the market cant go much higher/lower" are the way of ET all-stars ;)
  5. NoDoji

    it's called the 'dartboard' approach to trading! lol
  6. curious:

    does the "or so" part mean like 2-3 months

    however I did try to buy some Nov 240p on NDX Friday but no fill; was also going to open some Dec 240c - if we head higher convert Nov into a backspread or bull spread. If lower convert Dec into calendar bear spread.
  7. NoDoji


    OK, guys, play nice...even though EMR and I have little in common politically, I respect him (assumption) as a trader and I want to evaluate market analyses different from my straight up PA/TA stuff.

    In the range, I felt there were clean fade zones (and I've been swing trading stocks off them), but with this breakout-in-progress, I don't see the current PA indicating a perfect shorting opportunity. However, fundamentally Europe is a mess and the market has an uninterrupted history of "shoot first, question later", so I'm assuming EMR may have experience-based knowledge that I lack (I've only been involved with trading for a little over 3 1/2 years).

    Disclosure: I have lots of swing long positions :p
  8. S2007S


    Doesn't anyone understand the psychology of this market, just a month ago everyone thought it was going to continue to drop further, didn't happen... now the mentality is that this market can only go up. This market will break to the downside just like it broke to the upside and shake everyone out once it sells off....everyone always believes the market is going to take off without them, this is never the case with these markets, buy and hold is done with. You will be able to buy the SPX back under a 1000 sometime in the next 12-18 months, there is absolutely no need to chase this market. Look at those who chased the Nasdaq all the way to 5000....its still 50% off from its highs from 10 years ago and doesn't look to be breaking out anytime soon. And so what if the SPX breaks new highs above 1600, by that point there will be major market bubbles everywhere, then the drop will come and all those holding out for SPX 2000 will be lost while those who had patience will be buying back the SPX under 1000 :)

    Dont fall for this rally, its only 4 weeks old and up over 12%, I call that a bear market rally :)
  9. ammo



    That's what I said 2 months ago when everyone was freaking out.
    #10     Oct 23, 2011