People Who Moved To Texas From California Finally Feeling At Home Now That Power Is Out

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    This was a really interesting read. I wonder if any public agencies had the data that showed public utilities were 8% lower than national average and private utilities were 13% higher. If I was in a broker provided area I would want to know ASAP.
     
    #281     Feb 24, 2021
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I would think that public utilities would always be lower than private, but this is just a guess. However, you have to consider other factors along with price. Reliability and outages, stuff like that. Although that doesn't bode well for Texas. you get higher prices AND less reliability.
     
    #282     Feb 24, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The power company in California had sovereign immunity to legal cases until it was stripped of it -- leading to the lawsuits in California which sent the power company into bankruptcy. The same thing appears to be underway in Texas now. ERCOT is claiming it has sovereign immunity from lawsuits - which has just sparked rage for the sovereign immunity to be removed.

    Texas' grid operator ERCOT has 1 reason that it claims it can't be sued
    https://abc13.com/technology/ercot-has-1-reason-that-it-claims-it-cant-be-sued/10362037/

    After a historic winter storm in Texas knocked out power to millions and left dozens dead, officials who manage the state's grid, the Electrical Reliability Council of Texas, say they aren't responsible in court because they have sovereign immunity to legal cases.

    Sovereign immunity is the legal principle that protects some governmental agencies from lawsuits because allowing the suits would disrupt "key government services" when money is spent on litigation.

    Previous courts have upheld ERCOT's immunity, claiming that despite it not being an official government agency, it is a critical part of the electric industry. If a court were to find ERCOT monetarily responsible for any action it takes, it could essentially bankrupt the system, leaving Texas and its power grid without central management.

    Whether or not grid operators will have the right to sue is currently in front of the Texas Supreme Court in another case brought before it years ago. Dallas-based Panda Power sued ERCOT in 2016, claiming that reports the grid operator put out said the state was woefully short on power generation. Using that prediction, Panda Power spent billions building new plants. But the report was wrong and at least one of the new plants went bankrupt.

    The suit says ERCOT intentionally manipulated the projections, bowing to political pressure.

    An appeals court upheld ERCOT's claim to immunity in 2018 and the case has now worked its way up to the Texas Supreme Court, where it's expected to be decided by the summer.

    Lawyers across the state have filed new lawsuits against the operator in the wake of the 2021 winter storm. All the suits so far allege the grid operators didn't do enough to prevent massive blackouts that affected nearly 5 million Texans.

    ERCOT didn't respond to a request for comment.

    (Article has video)
     
    #283     Feb 24, 2021
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Never fear, Biden is coming to fix the problem 10 days later. Its 75 today in Houston.

     
    #284     Feb 24, 2021
    WeToddDid2 likes this.
  5. C'MON MAN. Give Joe a break. He has been in the basement for the last six months and people were not sure he was still alive.

    A lot of people said that Biden was just off in China doing business but turns out it was Hunter Biden.
     
    #285     Feb 24, 2021
    WeToddDid2 likes this.
  6. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    #286     Feb 24, 2021
    smallfil likes this.
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #287     Feb 24, 2021
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    ERCOT Executive salaries, nice gig they had going on:

    29F3B76D-0AD9-40AC-938B-471B8ECEF2AD.jpeg

    97ACFF52-78FD-4260-91C3-BDE4BE569E0D.jpeg
     
    #288     Feb 24, 2021
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    to be fair, you should do this salary analysis with other c-level execs at other utilities, both public and private, to determine if these numbers are out of whack. They sure SEEM messed up. But I have no idea.
     
    #289     Feb 24, 2021
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    I can only imagine what they would be at Con-Ed in NY. To the moon!
     
    #290     Feb 24, 2021