People need to know the truth about Lincoln

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Index piker, Jul 8, 2010.


  1. This is what happens when the oppressors get to rewrite antebellum history.
     
    #11     Jul 8, 2010
  2. Yes some people have always reacted to free trade zones/ports/agreements with violence , esp if it undermines their political power and tax base.
     
    #12     Jul 8, 2010
  3. Whats your opinion of history ? Please explain your position.Did the south have a right to secede? Did the founding fathers or constitution give the states the right to secede etc ? What was the norths aggression ? etc
     
    #13     Jul 8, 2010
  4. When its your property you every right to react with violence.The zones and ports you refer to was property of the United States,you try to take it,you get your ass kicked
     
    #14     Jul 8, 2010
  5. Yet, you piss all over yourself whining when another republican President wields less centralized control of govt.

    Go figure!
     
    #15     Jul 8, 2010
  6. The biggest argument that states have a right to secede would be 3/4 of the states proposing and ratifying the constitution to allow succession, since the south did not comprise of 3/4 of the states that argument doesn't fly
     
    #16     Jul 8, 2010
  7. Yes, shame on our founding fathers for not making an explicit pre-nup for what then was a given and non unique concept.
     
    #17     Jul 8, 2010


  8. I think Bush is one of the worst presidents ever but I never wished the man harm(many on ET have wished harm to Obama),I never said he wasn't American,i never said he was a dictator,I never said he should be impeached or any of the vile things you right wingers say about Obama
     
    #18     Jul 8, 2010
  9. They did have a pre nup,it said 3/4 of the states had to agree
     
    #19     Jul 8, 2010
  10. Lincoln ranked best president by historians


    WASHINGTON – Just days after the nation honored the 200th anniversary of his birth, 65 historians ranked Abraham Lincoln as the nation's best president.

    Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive by the end of 2008, according to a survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN.

    Bush scored lowest in international relations, where he was ranked 41st, and in economic management, where he was ranked 40th. His highest ranking, 24th, was in the category of pursuing equal justice for all. He was ranked 25th in crisis leadership and vision and agenda setting.

    In contrast, Lincoln was ranked in the top three in each of the 10 categories evaluated by participants.

    In C-SPAN's only other ranking of presidents, in 2000, former President Bill Clinton jumped six spots from No. 21 to 15. Other recent presidents moved positions as well: Ronald Reagan advanced from No. 11 to 10, George H.W. Bush rose from No. 20 to 18 and Jimmy Carter fell from No. 22 to 25.

    This movement illustrates that presidential reputations are influenced by present-day concerns, said survey adviser and participant Edna Medford.

    "Today's concerns shape our views of the past, be it in the area of foreign policy, managing the economy or human rights," Medford said in a statement.

    After Lincoln, the academics rated George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt and Harry Truman as the best leaders overall. The same five received top spots in the 2000 survey, although Washington and Franklin D. Roosevelt swapped spots this year.

    Rated worst overall were James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, William Henry Harrison and Warren G. Harding.

    The survey was conducted in December and January. Participants ranked each president on a scale of one, "not effective" to 10, "very effective," on a list of 10 leadership qualities including relations with Congress, public persuasion and moral authority.
     
    #20     Jul 8, 2010