People like that steve tvardek. Where did you learn DAYtrading??

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by Completenewbee, May 31, 2006.

  1. I agree that the time and sales is useful after the fact. The thing that matter is the level 2.
     
    #101     Jun 2, 2006
  2. Just remember to not place too much emphasis on the size of bids and asks on Level II. And try to pay as much attention to the trade size on the ticker as you are the actual Prices...

    VAP or Volume At Price bars can be helpful on 1 minute charts too. Anyone using Tick line charts? I don't but I was curious if others do. Lots of charting systems have them...
     
    #102     Jun 2, 2006
  3. foible

    foible

    During most of the session, orders will go out in nice blocks, but they not all get filled so the trader will end up with an uneven number of shares. When a trader wants to get out entirely, they may batch up all of the shares they hold and dump them to "clean up". I've been told you can spot these prints as they will be large, but of an uneven number.

    Is that right?


    I don't know what Maverick means by "spreads the stock". Anyone care to hazard a guess?
     
    #103     Jun 2, 2006
  4. Lots of Nasdaq traders still use T&S. It's different but same.
     
    #104     Jun 2, 2006
  5. Babak

    Babak

    Sounds about right. Anyone want to confirm this?

    Yeah, this is what I don't get either. Maybe its listed stock lingo :)
     
    #105     Jun 2, 2006
  6. MR.NBBO

    MR.NBBO

    I guess the lingo does typically pertain to listed.

    Spreading the stock means the stock may have been $ 44.00 x 44.09 or the like.....you see the spec. re-quote 1x1 on ea side often, and the quote goes to 43.90 x 44.50. The specialist then prints this buyside gap at 44.50 x 68,300 shares or something. It's often a last "gasp" after buying all day.

    It was likely the last bit of shares that the "buyer" had yet to buy. He was buying all the way up, and just threw out the last bunch to "clean-up" and round his order out to an even 2 million shares--or whatever he was buying.
     
    #106     Jun 2, 2006
  7. The only way to learn to trade is to trade. To observe the market's behaviour and your own psychological reactions to the market's behaviour.

    "You can’t judge anything from one trade; after 100, you have a plan. And after a thousand trades, there is nothing you have not seen. Trading involves drawdowns and runups in equity, and you have to deal with both of them to trade.” Tom Rehberger

    Now, you have observed and participated for a while you should know two things. What a range day and trend day looks and feels like. You should also have reversal and continuation setups for both of these "market faces".

    It requires constant study of the market and yourself.

    You need to identify your own psychological weaknesses and come up with ways to react to those so they don't impinge on your profitability.

    You need to be constantly thinking about who is the loser on the trade. Is it you or the chap on the other side of your trade?

    I am talking about day trading index equity futures here. There's lots of opportunity to make money, but its not easy.

    Cheers.
     
    #107     Jun 10, 2006
  8. Cheese

    Cheese

    Undoubtedly true.

    However it may be that otherwise I differ slightly. Study of your chosen market plus preparation & planning do not require trading.
    Ultimately of course you must trade .. when ready.

    I have not done so myself and therefore I do not encourage anyone else to go into battle, get your hands thoroughly bloody and then believe this is the best way to understand the market.
    Of course the intensity needed to study a market bar by bar is so important. This is partly about sustained attention adhesion along with your willpower and perception/learning capability which must become very well drilled and trained

    Accurate trading is then just the decoration on a cake you made and which you bake perfectly from carefully chosen and exactly co-ordinated ingredients.
    :)
     
    #108     Jun 10, 2006