Pelosi Impeachment Inquiry

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Big AAPL, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Democrat presidents do a better job at keeping nuclear weapons out of the hands of countries like Iran and North Korea.
     
    #451     Sep 30, 2019
  2. Let’s move away from deflection and “the other side did that” game. These techniques have only worked in getting groups of people fighting against each other. The most honest and accurate view might be along the lines of both sides made some serious missteps in foreign policy.

    Now back to us: It is one thing to copy, paste, and complain. It is something else entirely to do something about those things that piss us off. Would you be willing to consider teaming up with me and others to actively participate in a movement to make our Government more accountable?
     
    #452     Sep 30, 2019
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Lets just stay on the topic that Iran is building nuclear weapons again because of the idiot in The White House.
     
    #453     Sep 30, 2019
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  4. What are our practical options with North Korea? Let’s break it down:

    1. North Korea will never give up their nuclear weapons.

    Option 1 - We recognize this is as their prerogative and accept it. Probable result - Increased geopolitical stability with a small long term risk of accidental launch or adverse regime change that results in a detonation of a nuclear weapon.

    Option 2 - North Korea having nuclear weapons is considered unacceptable and we decide to take their nuclear weapons away. Probable result - A small nuclear war involving other weapons of mass destruction such as biological and chemical weapons causing significant casualties on at least two continents. Possibility of escalation involving more powerful countries. Heavy casualties in China, North Korea, and South Korea is all but certain.

    2. North Korea will give up their nuclear weapons.

    Option 1 - We ask nicely, but don’t offer Kim any guarantees. Guaranteed result - Kim tells us to pound sand. Duh.

    Option 2 - We off Kim guarantees regarding his position of power and massive economic incentives involving other key players such as China, including maybe European countries and Japan. My perception is the North Korean people are durable and could be particularly productive if the had the opportunity. North Korea is well situated next to the productive capacity of China, the Resources of Russia, and the craftsmanship of the Japanese. Combined with US management know how, this deal could be a major win for almost everybody. If much of the world is now able to redirect resources from their war machines and instead put those resources toward our environment, every life form on this planet wins. North Korea is also near major established shipping routes. Probable result - World peace, a better environment, and better economic opportunities for many.

    What would be your choice?
     
    #454     Sep 30, 2019
  5. elderado

    elderado

    The lefties won't do it.

    “In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.” - Mark Twain.
     
    #455     Sep 30, 2019
  6. What topic is more relevant than a properly functioning Government? Trump was elected because of voter dissatisfaction of the establishment, right?

    Cause and effect. Things happen for a reason. Until we address the underlying causes of our disfunction, things will never change. Please don’t tell me you believe electing an establishment politician is going to change anything.

    We, the people, are the sovereign. Power emanates from us to our representatives. It is time we start acting that way.

    Do you agree?
     
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    #456     Sep 30, 2019
  7. You may be right, but I want to try. “A house divided cannot stand”.
     
    #457     Sep 30, 2019
  8. That's what she said when the bed broke!

    :cool:
     
    #458     Sep 30, 2019
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    The so called establishment candidate got millions more votes so I wouldn't say that.
     
    #459     Sep 30, 2019
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    North Korea wouldn't have had nuclear weapons if not for a republican president.With The US being bogged down in the unpopular illegal Iraq war NK knew there would be no support from the American people or American allies for a confrontation with North Korea.Bush is also partly to blame for Iran(Trump more so) because Saddam kept Iran in check.
     
    #460     Sep 30, 2019