Pelosi Impeachment Inquiry

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Big AAPL, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. jem

    jem

    do you know who glenn greenwald is?
    you should come up to speed before you cast asperisions. ...


    https://theintercept.com/2017/01/11...-elect-using-unverified-claims-as-dems-cheer/

    Glenn Greenwald
    January 11 2017, 6:35 a.m.


    IN JANUARY 1961, Dwight Eisenhower delivered his farewell address after serving two terms as U.S. president; the five-star general chose to warn Americans of this specific threat to democracy: “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.” That warning was issued prior to the decadelong escalation of the Vietnam War, three more decades of Cold War mania, and the post-9/11 era, all of which radically expanded that unelected faction’s power even further.

    This is the faction that is now engaged in open warfare against the duly elected and already widely disliked president-elect, Donald Trump. They are using classic Cold War dirty tactics and the defining ingredients of what has until recently been denounced as “Fake News.”

    Their most valuable instrument is the U.S. media, much of which reflexively reveres, serves, believes, and sides with hidden intelligence officials. And Democrats, still reeling from their unexpected and traumatic election loss, as well as a systemic collapse of their party, seemingly divorced further and further from reason with each passing day, are willing — eager — to embrace any claim, cheer any tactic, align with any villain, regardless of how unsupported, tawdry, and damaging those behaviors might be.

    The serious dangers posed by a Trump presidency are numerous and manifest. There is a wide array of legitimate and effective tactics for combating those threats: from bipartisan congressional coalitions and constitutional legal challenges to citizen uprisings and sustained and aggressive civil disobedience. All of those strategies have periodically proven themselves effective in times of political crisis or authoritarian overreach.

    But cheering for the CIA and its shadowy allies to unilaterally subvert the U.S. election and impose its own policy dictates on the elected president is both warped and self-destructive. Empowering the very entities that have produced the most shameful atrocities and systemic deceit over the last six decades is desperation of the worst kind. Demanding that evidence-free, anonymous assertions be instantly venerated as Truth — despite emanating from the very precincts designed to propagandize and lie — is an assault on journalism, democracy, and basic human rationality. And casually branding domestic adversaries who refuse to go along as traitors and disloyal foreign operatives is morally bankrupt and certain to backfire on those doing it.


    ... more at link..


     
    #2541     Jan 28, 2020
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt


    Give that girl a MAGA hat. :cool:



    Feinstein leans toward acquitting Trump as his defense team ends impeachment arguments


    By Molly O'Toole, Jennifer Haberkorn and Eli Stokols, Los Angeles Times
    22 mins ago
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    Just after President Trump’s defense lawyers ended arguments in their Senate trial Tuesday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California became the first Democrat to suggest that she could vote to acquit him, despite serious concerns about his character.

    “Nine months left to go, the people should judge. We are a republic, we are based on the will of the people — the people should judge,” Feinstein said Tuesday, after the president’s team finished a three-day presentation in his defense.
     
    #2542     Jan 28, 2020
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  3. She is not necessarily wrong but if she is not up for re election this year she probably does not care since she is from a dark blue state anyway...
     
    #2543     Jan 28, 2020
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

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    #2544     Jan 28, 2020
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    fannie better not fuck it up:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...add30e-41bd-11ea-aa6a-083d01b3ed18_story.html
    Impeachment trial live updates: McConnell tells Republican senators he does not have the votes to block witnesses
     
    #2545     Jan 28, 2020
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #2546     Jan 28, 2020
  7. Yeh. I dunno. That's her rap anyway. We have no way of knowing what her motives are.

    Part of me thinks that she is afraid of seeing Biden damaged further if this thing gets protracted. She was/is an early Biden supporter (much to the chagrin of Skankala who was looking for a little support from her fellow Californian senator).

    Now we/she sees that Comrade Bernie has taken the lead in California. You have to believe that she would have trouble seeing it helping Biden if the Senate went full Biden Circus for a week.

    Even if I am wrong she will not be the last dem senator to have to start worrying about Bernie;s lead - not just because he may not be their candidate but they worry that if he is nominated and wins they have to work with the prick. You know, we often think all the lefties play on the same team and they do in some ways but many of them are nasty people even to other lefties. Y'all recall from the 2016 campaign people were saying that no one in the Senate likes Bernie and then just a couple days ago Hillary went their again. Whereas Uncle Joe is everyone's friend.

    The Biden Circus probably gonna happen anyway. Even if it is over before the judiciary committee.
     
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    #2547     Jan 28, 2020
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    #2548     Jan 28, 2020
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    We are not so far apart as you may think. Your calling me a "propagandist", i.e., advertiser, is off base, and you erred in assuming I was "pretending" there is "only one possible solution". There are always, in every situation without fail, wrong decisions possible. But I admit you are not nearly as stupid as you sometimes make yourself out to be.
     
    #2549     Jan 28, 2020
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #2550     Jan 28, 2020