Pelosi Impeachment Inquiry

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Big AAPL, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Alright. I might have zoned out and skipped some reading a bit when I saw that part about handing over a stronger and leaner party- because taking a beating and defeat in 2020 would be good for 2024.

    I dont see how it is going to make her stronger if Warren runs and the face of the party becomes ultra-lefty which puts the dem majority in the house at risk because the swing state dems and trump state dems are put at risk if the dem party goes full-loon. Pelosi has no power without a majority so that is quite a thing to put at risk.

    Anyway. As usual in politics, all that you said, is a possible scenario and to her benefit if she can pull it off- except that is a big "if." Pretty sad- given the fact that trump is vulnerable, not an easy shot, but vulnerable." Instead of all those highly convoluted strategies, why not just get a good candidate, take the presidency and keep the house? Oh, I see. No good candidates on the horizon.
     
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    #151     Sep 26, 2019
  2. Warren running and the perception of ultra lefty will kill the last vestiges of that wing in the party. Failure will strip them of any credibility. This whole free college and free this and free open borders is like the phase of a teenage girl. There is nothing but shit right now so if losing is a real possibility, lose with a purpose and a plan. After HRC lost there was no purpose or plan just panic and hysteria.

    Trump is vulnerable and Biden, Warren and Bernie is the best Dems could come up with....tells you everything right there. Pelosi is smart being in D.C. for so long, she knows when it is time to cleanse the herd and rebuild. Dems are the Miami Dolphins or 76ers of politics. Trust the process.
     
    #152     Sep 26, 2019
  3. Well, we dont need to replay earlier discussions, but you and I disagree as to whether Pelosi is the Akido Master or whether she is now on the ropes trying to survive not only republican assaults but also Warren's lefty rise, and the Squad.


    She has a lifetime of skills and survival for sure, so did the Clintons and Biden. The caravan does pass at some point.

    This impeachment thing may or may not happen but it is much, much, much further along than Pelosi ever wanted, and her having to yield to the Squad and their bootlickers is not the only factor but they are definitely part of the picture. I suppose you can always reframe it to look like she is playing six dimensional chess now rather than just plain old being on the ropes. I think she is gasping for air and pandering to the AOC crowd bigtime rather than being the master puppeteer from the old days. She is still good at it- problem is she is playing at a level where you have to exceptional day in and day out.
     
    #153     Sep 26, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    You give her way too much credit
     
    #154     Sep 26, 2019
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  5. Bugenhagen

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    #155     Sep 26, 2019
  6. They should look closer to home. If they impeach President Trump they should investigate Biden(s). He's guilty with video backup.

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    #156     Sep 26, 2019
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    “Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival,” Lutsenko said.

    The Bidens have cracked time travel.. oddly that is how future Biff Tannen based on Trump made his money, you would think they would have made a lot more.
     
    #157     Sep 26, 2019
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  9. My explanation is the only one that makes sense to impeach based on that transcript knowing there are never going to be enough votes and that doing so is going to sink the person with best polling numbers. My explanation of the moves seems to be the most plausible.
     
    #159     Sep 26, 2019

  10. I see no evidence whatsoever of Pelosi pandering to AOC.

    She has sponsored 3 bills that are going to die in committee.....if she did not show up to work there would be no difference...no power.

    Again you and FOX News give AOC more power than she actually wields. Show me any legislative agenda or control she exercises in Congress right now and don't tell me about TV face time or how much speaking she does. Any ass can talk, only power counts and Pelosi wields all the power as head of the party in Congress.

    There are no examples of AOC controlling any agenda and Bernie is getting slammed in the polls which proves the far left is being turned away just like it was in 2016. Warren is not the same as Bernie, she is just talking out of both sides of her mouth and will be useless.

    Impeachment did not come about until she said so. It is all on her terms, respect the game. She is wiping out the herd to develop something better and whoever does not realize that and wake up in the Dem party will be washed out with the tide over the next two -four year cycle.

    The only way Pelosi retains power is a Congressional majority and Trump as President. If Warren or Biden win in 2020, Pelosi becomes like Paul Ryan and where is he now? Trump cannot get anything done and she can build a bigger majority in 2020 and 2022 election.

    Impeachment now is a no risk move now where she sacrifices all the pawns and she remains Queen.
     
    #160     Sep 26, 2019