Pelosi-Cortez develping rift is interesting.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Banjo, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    they're shook. Oddly enough, the right wing media is giving them the air time Trump got from the mainstream back in '16
     
    #11     Jul 14, 2019
  2. Banjo

    Banjo

    #12     Jul 14, 2019
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

  4. LOL. You people overestimate Pelosi's power. Underestimating AOC already ended one powerful congressman's career.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-netroots-192943694.html

    Nancy Pelosi Emerges As Unexpected Villain At Netroots Nation

    PHILADELPHIA ― The chatter at Netroots Nation, a progressive gathering that attracts thousands of people each year, was expected to be on the rising influence of the left on the 2020 presidential election. But frustration with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, once considered an avatar of San Francisco liberalism, has emerged as a constant theme ― centered on her recent criticism of progressive members of her caucus.

    “She doesn’t act this way when Blue Dogs say stupid shit about other Democrats and about the party and constantly criticize the party,” said Markos Moulitsas, the founder of the popular liberal blog Daily Kos, referring to a group of conservative House Democrats. “For some reason, she’s singling out these four for a special brand of conflict. It doesn’t make any sense.”

    Progressive discontent toward the California Democrat has been simmering for months, with the feeling that the speaker has been putting the interests of the more conservative members of the caucus over the priorities of the left. She has pushed off pursuing impeachment of President Donald Trump and been slow to embrace ideas like the Green New Deal and “Medicare for All.”

    But it burst into the open when Pelosi gave an interview to The New York Times, dismissing the power of four of the biggest progressive stars in the House: Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.), Ilhan Omar (Minn.), Ayanna Pressley (Mass.) and Rashida Tlaib (Mich.).

    The four women believed a House measure to provide emergency funding for the migrant crisis at the border didn’t provide sufficient restrictions on how the Trump administration could spend the money. They were further incensed when the House later passed the weaker Senate version of the bill, after moderates signaled that they would provide the votes to support it.

    in Philadelphia this weekend. (Photo: ASSOCIATED PRESS)

    Omar said a vote for the bill was “a vote to keep kids in cages and terrorize immigrant communities.”

    “All these people have their public whatever and their Twitter world. But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got,” Pelosi said when asked about some of their comments, expressing her displeasure that they voted against the emergency funding legislation ― and then chastised colleagues who did back it.
     
    #14     Jul 14, 2019
  5. Feud Among House Democrats Remains on Public Display
    Tweet from official account of the caucus criticizes top aide to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, fueling acrimony

    By
    Natalie Andrews

    July 13, 2019 4:37 pm ET


    Acrimony among House Democrats continued to flare on public display into the weekend, despite efforts by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to keep discord between Democratic leadership and more progressive members private.

    Mrs. Pelosi (D., Calif.) this week had urged Democratic lawmakers not to make grievances with each other public, telling her caucus in a closed-door meeting to avoid criticizing each on Twitter.

    But on Friday night, the House Democrats’ official Twitter account extended a continuing spat over the party’s policy direction by criticizing a top aide to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.), a progressive star who has tried to push House leaders to the political left during her first months in Congress.

    The Twitter account that represents the full House Democratic Caucus criticized Saikat Chakrabarti, chief of staff to Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, for comments he had made about another lawmaker, Rep. Sharice Davids (D., Kan.), who is of Native American heritage.

    “Who is this guy and why is he explicitly singling out a Native American woman of color?” the House Democrats’ account said of Mr. Chakrabarti. “She is a phenomenal new member who flipped a red seat blue. Keep Her Name Out Of Your Mouth.”

    More at https://www.wsj.com/articles/feud-among-house-democrats-remains-on-public-display-11563050222
     
    #15     Jul 14, 2019
  6. Racial politics roil Democratic Party
    By Jonathan Easley - 07/13/19 06:18 AM EDT


    Democrats who have called President Trump and his policies racist are now pointing fingers at one another on issues of race.

    Allegations of racial insensitivity are flying between the 2020 Democratic contenders, as well as between House Democrats, raising concerns that internecine squabbles over identity and race are tarnishing party leaders and distracting Democrats from their goal of ousting the president in 2020.

    The racially charged controversies that have swirled around former Vice President Joe Biden (D-Calif.), 79, have also put a spotlight on the generational rift within the party.

    Longtime Democratic leaders are facing new scrutiny from their younger peers over their past records. And they’re being called out for their rhetoric, which in some cases has offended the younger generation of liberals.

    Frustrated lawmakers say the backbiting over race has gotten out of control. They want to see it come to an end so Democrats can return their focus to their agenda in the House and defeating Trump at the ballot box.

    “It’s damaging to this party and the internal workings of the Democratic Party,” said Rep. Wm. Clay(D-Mo.). “I can tell you it’s not helpful.”

    Tensions exploded on Capitol Hill this week after Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-CortezD-N.Y.) accused Pelosi of singling out women of color for criticism, as divisions linger over the passage of a $4.6 billion border bill.

    Pelosi has been dismissive of the influence on Capitol Hill held by Ocasio-Cortez and three other rising Democratic Party stars — Reps. — the group of freshman female lawmakers with massive followings on social media.

    Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks ignited a long-simmering feud with the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC).

    CBC members, such as Clay, exploded in anger at Ocasio-Cortez for having “used the race card” and accused progressives of seeking to oust black lawmakers by endorsing their primary challengers.

    The progressive group Justice Democrats, which is closely aligned with Ocasio-Cortez, is supporting primary challengers to several longtime Democrats, including Clay and Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), a Hispanic Caucus member.

    Justice Democrats have also considered a challenge to House Democratic Caucus Chairman Hakeem Jeffries(D-N.Y.), a CBC member who is viewed by many as a potential heir to Pelosi.

    “Donald Trump has brought the question of race to the forefront of American politics, so it’s no surprise that there will be ongoing and continuous and serious and often uncomfortable public discussions on the subject,” Jeffries said. “At the end of the day, our common enemy is Donald Trump, not other members of the House Democratic Caucus.”

    In the presidential race, Biden’s backers are still fuming over what they view as a dishonest characterization of his record on race by his rivals for the presidential nomination, including Sens. Kamala Harris

    Harris catapulted into the top tier of Democratic presidential contenders after an exchange with Biden at the first presidential debate. The California Democrat called Biden’s remarks about finding common ground with segregationist senators “hurtful,” and she attacked him for his decades-old opposition to a federal busing program aimed at integrating schools.

    “I think Sen. Harris is out of control,” said Rep. A. Donald McEachinD-Va.), a CBC member who has endorsed Biden for president.

    Booker had previously taken a dig at Biden, saying that the former vice president’s recollection of never having been addressed as “boy” by the segregationist senators was “hurtful” to black people and showed a “lack of understanding” about racial power dynamics.

    Biden has slipped some in the polls since the first debate, but he remains the front-runner in the Democratic presidential primary in part because of his strong support from black voters.

    Taken together, the controversies have Democrats shaking their heads over how they have reached the point of attacking one another over race.

    “They should be pointing the finger at [Senate Majority Leader] Mitch McConnellR-Ky.] and Donald Trump,” said Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman(D-N.J.), the first black woman elected to Congress from New Jersey.

    “I don’t think anyone is calling Joe Biden a racist. I don’t think anyone has any reason to call Nancy Pelosi a racist. I think that we can have these bold discussions and people can disagree on certain issues. But this is not helpful, not helpful at all,” she added.

    Republicans are relishing the fight, describing it as the culmination of the left’s obsession with identity politics.

    “Madam Speaker, welcome to the true nature of identity politics - where you’re accused of being racist for no reason at all, and where intellectually lazy insults are used against you as a way to replace substantive debate of your argument or idea,” Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas) said over Twitter.

    Some liberals interviewed by The Hill described the fighting as driven by the generational divide rather than the belief that some in the party harbor racial animus.

    “There’s an old guard and a new guard, and there’s going to be some friction there,” said one Democratic lawmaker who requested anonymity.

    Activism around racial issues has been a hallmark of the ascendant left wing of the party, led by Ocasio-Cortez.

    Cornell William Brooks, the former president of the NAACP and a current professor at the Harvard Kennedy School, said the raging debate is largely the result of a generational divide and a matter of style.

    The young liberal lawmakers, Brooks said, have enormous influence on social media and have used their platform to draw attention to what they view as racial biases, whereas veterans of the civil rights movement are focused more on institutional or explicit racial inequality.

    “These young lawmakers came of age politically at a moment in the country when there has been unprecedented levels of activism,” Brooks said. “They practice politics as protest, whereas Pelosi practices it through the art of compromise in governing, so this has a lot to do with generation, not just race.”

    “For younger voters, they’re used to expressing their thoughts about racial, ethnic or gender identity implications through tweeted speech, whereas the older generation is more focused on intent rather than what is implied,” Brooks added.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452856-racial-politics-roil-democratic-party
     
    #16     Jul 14, 2019
  7. This is what frightens Pelosi.

    Ryan James Girdusky‏Verified account@RyanGirdusky 2h2 hours ago


    Poll of Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar's favorability of non-college educated whites: AOC- 22% favorable Omar- 9% favorablehttps://twitter.com/axios/status/1150420355699400704…

    Ryan James Girdusky Retweeted Axios
    AxiosVerified account@axios
    "If all voters hear about is AOC, it could put the [House] majority at risk," said a top Democrat who is involved in 2020 congressional races. "he's getting all the news and defining everyone else’s races." …
    12:17 PM - 14 Jul 2019
     
    #17     Jul 14, 2019
  8. Suggestion...

    She round up all of her buddies, charter a fleet of Boeing 737 Max planes and zip their way back to Russia. That way, they'll be happy and so will we.
     
    #18     Jul 14, 2019
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  9. Much ado about nothing.....you spend more time posting articles that show people scared of a freshmen congressman with no power than most people give her the time of day. Stop posting for a few weeks and she goes away. I don't see any lefties, dems or other left of center people posting about her repeatedly in any manner.

    As I said FOX and conservatives gave her all her power, Pelosi has real power and just because some AOC-ites are being negative about her means shit. All roads lead through Pelosi and you think when push comes to shove a Congressman is oging to go against the Boss? LMAO.
     
    #19     Jul 14, 2019
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I wouldn’t know who she is if it weren’t for Fox News.
     
    #20     Jul 15, 2019
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