PDT (pattern day trading) rule is UNAMERICAN

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by Koros, Aug 17, 2003.

  1. yeah what she said! :D
     
    #31     Aug 19, 2003
  2. Whether or not there's more of an edge for you or me or whoever as a result of the PDT rule is irrelevant. The SEC should create rules that are fair to everyone, without influence from special interest groups or large corporations.

    P.S. The uptick rule and reserve size suck too!
     
    #32     Aug 19, 2003
  3. What is "reverse size?":confused:
     
    #33     Aug 20, 2003
  4. You can write as many petitions as you want, but you're being delusional if you think that will make them change or repeal this rule. Seriously, the SEC/NASD couldn’t care less about some online petition.

    I agree that this rule is total BS, but the best you can do is try to work within the rule as best you can. For example some firms allow you to trade the same stock multiple times in one day (on the same side of the market) and it only counts as 1 trade against you on the PDT rule. They cost average the buys and sells at the end of the day and load them as 1 buy and 1 sell. This way you can really day trade 3 out of 5 business days.

    PM me if you want to know more about this "loophole" to the crappy PDT rule.
     
    #34     Aug 21, 2003

  5. Yeah.....it's called SWIFT TRADE....but all you are doing is replacing one set of obstacles with another.....and ANY firm that will let you do this on a non-prop basis with less then 25k is going to go Down
     
    #35     Aug 21, 2003
  6. not quite. It all depends on how smart your competition is!!!!! Less competition more edge, more DUMB competition evern MORE edge!!! :)
     
    #36     Aug 21, 2003
  7. Actually I know a firm that has done it that way since the rule came out and it is not who you mentioned. Maybe you should rethink your position, because it's a fact.

    I really don't care to argue about it. I have far more than $25k so it doesn't really matter to me anyway. I just thought some people below $25k may want to know about it.
     
    #37     Aug 21, 2003
  8. the whole point of the rule Itihnk was to reduce the number of people who blow themselves up. With the E-mini leverage, this instument allows them to trade anyway, a much more volatile instrument and blow themselves up quicker....

    it makes no sense...

    Besides, things are only "American" if the fit into the SEC and the NYSE's plans.... ;)
     
    #38     Aug 21, 2003
  9. ChrisM

    ChrisM

    Agree,

    looking for perfect democracy here is a time waste, so it is better to learn how to deal with non-perfect world.
    BTW I don`t think day trading is the only way to make money in this biz.
     
    #39     Aug 21, 2003