Paul Ryan = Sarah Palin?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. There aren’t a whole lot of similarities between Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin. Unlike Palin, Ryan is bright and is considered a policy wonk. But there’s one clear similarity between the two: Both were picked to be on the ticket out of desperation.

    Nate Silver had it exactly right when he Tweeted:

    I think Ryan pick (if rumors true) indicates bearish view from Romney campaign. Not a pick you make if you think you’re ahead.

    Will it work better than McCain’s desperation move of picking Palin in 2008? It won’t be that disastrous. Ryan will not look unpresidential and will not scare people at the thought of him having to take over for Romney for some reason; no sane person could see Palin try to answer simple questions and have confidence that she could run the country. But the Obama campaign is already cuing up their ads on the Ryan plan and those ads are likely to be very effective. David Frum knows exactly what those ads will look like:

    A woman’s voice over. “You’ve worked hard all your life. You’ve paid Medicare taxes for almost 30 years. But under the Republican plan, Medicare won’t be there for you. Instead of Medicare as it exists now, under the Republican plan you’ll get a voucher that will pay as little as half your Medicare costs when you turn 65—and as little as a quarter in your 80s. And all so that millionaires and billionaires can have a huge tax cut.”

    That ad will draw blood and will—as Henry Kissinger used to say—have the additional merit of being true.
  2. Arnie


    FAIL (again)

    The Ryan plan is similar to what Federal workers now receive. Its also similar to Medicare Advantage which a quarter of all Medicare recepients get and like very much. Unfortunately, Obamacare eliminates Medicare Advantage. The only plan that is cutting Medicare is Obamacare.
  3. ryans stated purpose for destroying medicare as it exists now is to cut costs.
    you are perhaps unaware that medicare advantage costs the government 14% more than standard medicare?

    "Many private plans require no additional monthly premiums, yet the government pays an average of $849.90 in monthly subsidies to insurance companies for a person on Medicare Advantage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. That is about 14 percent more than the government spends on people with standard Medicare, according to the nonpartisan Medicare Payment Advisory Commission. "
  4. Maverick74


    Let me get this straight. Romney picks an actual conservative and this is seen by you as an act of desperation? LOL. No desperation would have been pandering to Latino's by choosing Rubio. Pandering to the neo-cons by picking Rice. Pandering to the moderates by picking Christie or pandering to the status quo by picking Portman. Romney had to pick someone with right wing values because he doesn't have any!
  5. BSAM


    Paul Ryan = Sarah Palin = LOL
  6. wjk


    You have to remember that FT thought Romney already had the conservative vote prior to his pick.

  7. Lucrum


    Not so free thinker = an extremist partisan buffoon
  8. Maverick74


    Yes but what he doesn't understand is the independents want a "real" choice between the candidates. There is the false idea that just because someone is an independent that means they want a moderate. Nothing could be further from the truth. Independents want and need a clear choice more so then the extreme right and left. The hard followers will support their party no matter what. The people in the middle want to make a choice. Romney was and is too much like Obama. In that case, they will usually part with the incumbent. Ryan actually gives them a crystal clear choice. There won't be any mistaking these two tickets. Now they get to choose.
  9. Brass


    Yes, they do, and I doubt Independents are going to go Randian in the aggregate. This one's gonna leave a mark.
  10. Maverick74


    Well, obviously we will know in November. No need to argue back and forth...yes they they won't...for hours on end.
    #10     Aug 13, 2012