Pat Tillman's death by "friendly fire"?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by steve46, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. Here is a link to the article I saw today.

    Apparently military doctors questioned the story presented to them because Tillman had been shot three times and the placement of the rounds was very close together, indicating that he was shot at close range...
  2. The sad part is, is that these type of reports - discoveries - cover ups are so common nowadays that people have become desensitized to the rampant plunge of ethical conduct displayed by so called leaders in this country.

    I've seen on other boards people defending this possible murder as a "shit happens" in the heat of battle. That attitude is a big reason for the collapse of integrity within our government.

    These soldiers who were involved in the actual deed were "Rangers". Yet people only expect these elite members of the military to conduct themselves as if they were merely week end warrior national guardsmen, or a bunch of socially handicapped city cops or something?

    I don't believe a herd of Rangers just "freak out" in the heat of battle.
  3. New Evidence Clearly Indicates Pat Tillman Was Executed

    Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away, no evidence of "friendly fire" damage at scene, Army attorneys congratulated each other on cover-up, Wesley Clark concludes "orders came from the very top" to murder pro-football star because he was about to become an anti-war political icon

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    Friday, July 27, 2007

    Astounding new details surrounding the death of Pat Tillman clearly indicate that top brass decided to execute the former pro football star in cold blood to prevent him from returning home and becoming an anti-war icon.

    These same criminals then engaged in a sophisticated conspiracy to create a phony "friendly fire" cover story.

    Shocking new facts emerged about the case last night but were bizarrely underplayed by the Associated Press under nondescript headlines like 'New Details on Tillman's Death' - a complete disservice to the horrific implications that the new evidence carries.

    (Article continues below)

    Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player's death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

    "The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described," a doctor who examined Tillman's body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

    The doctors - whose names were blacked out - said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.

    The report also states that "No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck."

    The article also reveals that "Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments."

    So there was no evidence whatsoever of friendly fire, but the ballistics data clearly indicated that the three head shots had been fired from just 10 yards away and then the Army tried to concoct a hoax friendly fire story and sent gloating back-slapping e mails congratulating each other on their success while preventing the doctors from exploring the possibility of murder. How can any sane and rational individual weigh this evidence and not come to the conclusion that Tillman was deliberately gunned down in cold blood?

    The evidence points directly to it and the motivation is clear - Tillman abandoned a lucrative career in pro-football immediately after 9/11 because he felt a rampaging patriotic urge to defend his country, and became a poster child for the war on terror as a result. But when he discovered that the invasion of Iraq was based on a mountain of lies and deceit and had nothing to do with defending America, he became infuriated and was ready to return home to become an anti-war hero.

    As far back as March 2003, immediately after the invasion, Tillman famously told his comrade Spc. Russell Baer, "You know, this war is so fucking illegal," and urged his entire platoon to vote against Bush in the 2004 election. Far from the gung-ho gruff stereotype attributed to him, Tillman was actually a fiercely intellectual man with the courage of his convictions firmly in place.

    Tillman had even begun to arrange meetings with anti-war icons like Noam Chomsky upon his return to America before his death cut short any aspirations of becoming a focal point for anti-war sentiment.

    According to Daily Kos, Wesley Clark appeared on Keith Olbermann's Countdown last night and stated that "the orders came from the very top" to murder Tillman as he was a political symbol and his opposition to the war in Iraq would have rallied the population around supporting immediate withdrawal.

    The notion that the U.S. government gave orders for Army top brass to execute Pat Tillman in cold blood is the most damaging indictment of the Iraq war since it began, trumping the lies about weapons of mass destruction tenfold, but if the establishment media continue to soft-peddle and steam-valve one of the biggest stories of the century its impact will be completely diluted.

    It is up to us to make this story go viral because the implications are so dire that they could act as the final death knell for the blood-soaked and illegal occupation of Iraq and become the clarion call to bring our troops home.

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  4. So he was whacked by his own men? Like Neiderhoffer from Animal House was.
  5. achilles28


    From the same article:

    _ No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.

    Pats family said he expressed increasing opposition to the war and knew it was a sham before he was killed.
  6. Tillman wasn't in Iraq, he was killed in Afghanistan. I seriously doubt he was killed by his own men. In a regular Army unit...maybe. In a Special Forces unit....doubtful. It was a tragic accident made worse by top brass numbskulls trying to cover it up. The allegations made by his mother I would attribute to a grieving parent unable to deal with the loss of a child. Keep the story alive with endless speculation and in a way she keeps her son alive. Understandable, but not to be taken seriously.

    Tillman did serve in Iraq. He was killed in Afghanistan.

    " Moved in part by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Tillman decided to give up his career, saying he wanted to fight al Qaeda and help find Osama bin Laden. He spurned the Cardinals’ offer of a three year, $3.6 million contract extension and joined the Army in June 2002 along with his brother Kevin, who was playing minor-league baseball for the Cleveland Indians organization.

    Pat Tillman’s enlistment grabbed the attention of the nation — and the highest levels of the Bush administration. A personal letter from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, thanking him for serving his country, now resides in a storage box, put away by Pat’s widow, Marie.

    Instead of going to Afghanistan, as the brothers expected, their Ranger battalion was sent to participate in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003. The Tillmans saw combat several times on their way to Baghdad. In early 2004, they finally were assigned to Afghanistan.

    Although the Rangers are an elite combat group, the investigative documents reveal that the conduct of the Tillmans’ detachment — A Company, 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment — appeared to be anything but expert as it advanced through a remote canyon in eastern Afghanistan on April 22, 2004, on a mission to search for Taliban and al Qaeda fighters in a village called Manah. "
  8. Fratricide my arse.....there's no way any Army puke put any rounds in a dime sized package.

  9. Josh Swiller

    Who Killed Pat Tillman?

    Posted July 27, 2007 | 05:34 PM (EST)

    Of all the scandals and cover-ups perpetuated by Bush and the Neocon army, this could be the worst yet. It has recently come to light that Pat Tillman was killed by three bullets to the forehead. And not just three bullets to the forehead but at close range! That's not friendly fire, that's assassination.

    Many facts back up the idea that Tillman's death was a planned out execution. Consider:
    • Tillman and his platoon were Special Forces. They had hours and hours of training that regular soldiers did not get. They were trained not to shoot wildly and indiscriminately. Friendly fire is generally wild and indiscriminate. It is not three bullets at close range.
    • Tillman's crew was sent, for the first and only time ever on an evening mission. What is the point of an evening mission besides massive chaos? Daylight, you can see what's going on. Night, you can sneak up. Evening, you wander into the sheepherders coming home from the mountain pastures. Why exactly?
    • The team's Humvee broke down on the way ... and they were ordered to continue on foot. Again, what was the point? Doesn't a broken down Humvee in the lone road in the valley kind of ruin the element of surprise?
    • Tillman was, contrary to the Republican portrayal of him as a reflexive patriot, deeply troubled by the war. In fact, he was overheard speaking out about the Iraq invasion and telling another soldier to vote for Kerry. Tillman's favorite author: none other than Norm Chomsky. A visit with Chomsky was set up for as soon as Tillman returned. It seem most likely he was planning to speak out loudly and publicly against the war when his tour was over.
    • Tillman kept an extensive journal since he was 16 and guarded it with his life. Two days after his death, the journal, along with almost all of his other personal affects, disappeared.
    • The fiasco of the cover-up around his killing continues to go higher and higher up the ladder ... our president himself has blocked the release of information around the killing, claiming executive privilege.

    All this evidence points to the unmistakable conclusion that Tillman was assassinated. If he had come out strongly against the war and Bush policy just a couple of months before the election, it would have been more than enough to tip it over to Kerry. Before this week, I would have disregarded this scenario as pathological ranting. But this week's AP story makes it incontrovertible that something really bad went down. The army's own doctors thought so and sought a criminal investigation. Three bullets, in a tight circle, from ten yards away will do that. Of course, they were turned down.

    It's time to really ask who ordered the assassination of Pat Tillman.
  10. Another moonbat rag being lapped up by the mentally deficient.

    Better leave the US before the CIA gets serious about all the anti-war postings here on ET and people like you and the Zzztroll start disappearing in the middle of the night.
    #10     Jul 28, 2007