Not at all. Pat was defining a realistic observation of how things work and why. Much like gravity. Have you been paying attention? Big difference between that type of wisdom Pat brings forth and the silly attacks that other are blasting on and on with. The one has wisdom ... the others just rant and attack. A real fruit fest. errr test. It is quite amazing how the posts only prove my points even further.
Without supporting his belief with scripture - I just do not know how a man can feel comfortable saying he "knows" what God is doing... especially when punishment may be involved. And making those statements after a disaster almost begs for the anti christians to not only say Robertson is a judgmental asshole but then cast that net far and wide and blame all Christians. (and in a way I do not blame them - at least with respect to Robertson.) Robertson pulled the same stunt with Katrina and backed down. This trick of his seems like Brittany Spears getting out of limos without her underwear on. If you know that it was part of Gods desire to pound haiti with an earthquake because some of them practice voodoo --- say it before it happens and give us date or something with which to judge your prophetic value ... if you are going to act like you know God's mind after the fact have a specific bible quote. And do not chose the one we all know about the way you can recognize the final days. (that one has been used by charlatans for centuries - eventually one person will be correct.) In short how does Pat know whether this was just a continuation of continental drift - or done at the command of God? (this is not meant to be a discussion about pre destination.) I am getting at how do we know that this earthquake is punishment but others are random? I submit Pat Robertson has no more insight into this than anyone else. If he did - he would have told us about it ahead of time. For instance we will have an earthquake hit us in CA. I know of a few churches in San Diego either on or spitting distance to the San Andreas fault. They seem like pretty good places. A good earthquake could really mess us up. Will the inevitable earthquake be from god's wrath? If Pat says it after the fact I will want to kick his ass. It is very offensive to those who lose relatives.
Excellent ! As long as it isn't shotgunning. Exple: ... In the next 24 mos. there will be a massive earthquake in a heavily populated and impoverished area and there will be a tremendous loss of life ... a hurricane will pound the United States and cause millions of dollars of destruction ... a top governmental leader will die or be assassinated ... there will be an overthrow of a government in either Eastern Europe or Africa ... a new conflict will arise in either Eastern Europe or one of the Islamic States around Afghanistan ... A top Hollywood personality will die suddenly ... You get the picture ... the above is shotgunning ... usually many of the pellets hit the paper (more or less) ... usually because these things happen every year or two.
The type of wisdom that pushes ignorant beliefs, especially to profit by as "Pat" does , is more commonly known as deceit . Paying attention? No, it's too late for "Pat" to pay attention . The seismology fact cat is already out of the bag. Just because you defend extremists like the Pat Robertsons of this world , will not change those facts, and trying to use the contention that calling out fraudsters and ones like yourself for supporting them is ranting, then Much like gravity, it's already fallen down . Ghosts in the sky causing earthquakes because they are angry is hardly defining a realistic observation of how things work and why. "Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts." Daniel Moynihan
Nice try ... but your arguments have no weight ... just more blame, accusation, and baseless assertions to support an attack that has no supportive research. I gave my opinion based on my belief and faith. I'm not judging nor railing as some here. People have differing opinions and their reasons. Those who are mature have their reasons and can offer opinion and dialog with a measure of respect. Sharing my opinion exposes the internal fruit of people. It makes their issues self evident by exposing their instability and baseless rage and unfounded belief structures. To judge rightly there must be substance and fact and the clarity of mind and presence to present that material. Hence the fruit of baseless attacks already shows the sheer lack of credibility of whatever unsupported rant people continue to drone on about. I shared opinion and as such it is simple. I can offer my opinion and have no obligation to bring evidence ... because it is not adjudication but opinion that can be accepted or not accepted ... leaving everyone to freely say ... thanks but my opinion differs. However to judge and make spurious unsupported claims with no evidence ... that is not opinion ... that is libelous behavior that only demonstrates the instability and lack of credibility of those in their angry accusatory rant. I have been respectful to the disrespectful. That seems to stimulate more rant and rage of unsupported diatribe, however. Please feel free to continue to vomit your contents if it makes you feel better. Unfortunately it lends absolutely no credibility to anything you say but serves to expose deeper issues. If the basis of the entirety of your argument is proof that there is not a God or one true God ... then you might want to start with that. Once you can prove there is not a God without it being opinion ... then you have supported and adjudicatable evidence. Then you can set about liberating those who's belief is contrary to the facts you have evidential support of. The entire premise of what you present rests on your opinions. Yet you vehemently attack differing opinions? Isn't this the very worst evil that religion (or rebellion) has to offer? Isn't that the very epitome of hypocrisy? You might give it a rest as you stand judged by your own actions and fruit. You have done that all by your self. Your behavior has demonstrated the "Micro-Socio" model of the judgment cycle and those laws of order that further support my opinion of there being a "Macro-Socio" model of the same judgment cycles. Thank you for demonstrating the micro-model of the precept I have presented as my opinion. The theorem from this exercise in behavioral predictability would be: "Do not judge lest you be judged according to the very measure you establish."
ADDENDUM TO PREVIOUS POST: It is demonstrated in the micro model in this isolated incident ... the question is ... does it exist as a consistent law of order in both the micro and macro metrons of human existence? It is my opinion that it does. It is like clockwork as I see it. It is predictable. In the history of the majority of civilizations up to today there is a consistent belief that there is such a thing as "The laws of sowing and reaping." It is fact that those billions of people have believed this to this day. However there has not been any scientific work to support that belief beyond question ... beyond crop cultivation science. (Note: Science cannot prove why seeds and crops grow either ... though they do observe and provide detailed information and have the facts that seeds and crops do grow.)
The consistency you will see with scientists, is that when they have investigated to the point with their science that they can't explain why something has a particular property or behavior...they will say something like "it is just the nature of so and so to be the way it is." Then by implication of their atheism, the nature of so and so is due to something that is "natural" or anything else, but could not possibly be God... Science has done a marvelous job of investigating to deeper levels and revealing just another deeper level of human ignorance as to why things fundamentally are the way they are...
Dear me , unretired What a frantic attempt to exonerate yourself from all and any blame for anything at all it seems! Oh what a tangled web you weave, when first you practice to deceive. Now your own words are condemning what you are trying to support. Pat Robertson decided to "judge and make spurious unsupported claims with no evidence " against the suffering people of Haiti. His superstitious callous unfounded claims fit your "libelous behavior that only demonstrates the instability and lack of credibility of those in their angry accusatory rant." Pat Robertson made the vile remarks. You agree with him. No matter how ridiculously verbose you become , it will never be enough to get past those facts. Trying to accuse others of ranting, for criticizing that senile religious extremist's crude judgmental statements, and your own fault in excusing him for doing so, is really extremely childish. In that regard your rationality is quite clearly still at the level of a 1st year playground .
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