rbigsby I'm really surprised that after atleast 15 years of learning / trading you still think some guru will teach you the holy grail for few hundred dollars.
It's obvious that in times like this when stocks go straight up with zero risk that anyone and everyone on social media is literally the king of making money and they are going to show you how it's done, its all a fu*king clown show, none of them make money, they make their money selling you their side shows which is all make believe. How people fall for this garbage is beyond me. By now you would have thought most would know this and stay clear of the fakes but nope .....
You know who else are fu*king con artists and fakes and literally print money .....All those life coaches out there, there are literally hundreds of thousands of life coaches who make more money an hour than you could actually ever imagine. Forget investments and trading, become a life coach and print yourself more money than you could ever imagine....
I think tony robbins is way smarter than some people think. If they think he is just a con artist. But with that said there is no way i would pay money to listen to him talk. Not hundreds and not thousands... Pat kind of strikes me as a trading life coach but again i'm not paying.
and there are a bunch of what I call these mega traders, for example Rayner Teo 341,000 subscribers, Oliver Velez 67,000 subscribers, LIVE traders 119,000 subscribers, chat with traders 98,000 subscribers, Timothy Sykes 330,000 subscribers, CLAY trader 191,000 subscribers, am my all time favorite warrior trading coming in at 432,000 subscribers. As far as I can tell these are all vendor no trader just sell sites but they are very effective at selling.
I think some of them really do trade but what you have to keep in mind is they're using the house's money not their own. So it's all just entertainment So for example them having a $10000 losing day really doesn't hurt them because they're making more than that from their chat room. That's why it's not exactly the same for them as it is for a normal trader I.e. Their customers. I guess that's about as good of a gig as you can get if you can get it though For everyone else I guess they have to risk their real money
I've been trading with Pat since 2020. His strategy works. I think the difficulty here is that it is a real, and in-depth strategy, not something someone can give to you in 1 paragraph, and goodbye- go make $. His strategy is not unique. There are parts of it that are, but the main emphasis of it is not. But what he does do is work on a trader's weaknesses, and psychology, and all aspects of the craft. Not just "do XYZ and make $$$ all day." I have been in a few of his programs and I can 100% verify he does trade, with his $, live, and you can see it. It is his momentum program. He tells you the plan for the stock in premarket. As a team we work that chart and the plan. You can see his order entry, P+L, buys and sells, size, all of it. And he does take red trades. But he has techniques he explains to members on how he can almost always get green on the day. Is it easy to make $ with Pat? yes and no. If you follow blindly, yes. But then your impulses and human nature will kick in, and Pat will work on those elements with you... your desire to size up, take more trades, inability to take the loss, when to sell....he helps a person become disciplined and consistent. He has a really great support staff too. These people are no BS. They don't take BS. They want people that are "there for the right reasons" as he says. I'm happy to answer questions too. I know you all probably think I am Pat- but I am not. If you don't want to believe it...it is what it is.
With a name like E mini Vinny that's about what I would expect! Where are Pat's broker statements? That's the question they ask around here...I believe you though.